Compact Silver

it is fairly easy to find 28 hole formula hubs. don't get a different drilling pattern for your hub, it puts uneven stresses on the flanges and will void any warrenties. it also makes it hard to lace the wheel up and i would assume most shops will refuse to do so because of liability. just get the right hub.

haegan

thanks Haegan. i appreciate your response. i've been hesitant about formula hubs mainly bcos they are taiwan made (if i am correct?) are they any good? i assume they are as i hear them quite often. i hate to spend that much money on hubs specially for my first project bike. my LBS suggests Suzue Pro Max, Shimano Dura Ace or the very expensive Phil Woods. i'm close on getting formulas and be nice to my wallet!

I would be shocked if anyone claimed they could actually notice any difference between a phil and a fomula. Put some Phil bearings in the formulas and call it a day
haegan

Thanks, if you got any questions let me know.

It's actually not that hard 36 to 24 means you leave out 12 spokes at the hub which means 6 on each side... at 18 hub holes on each side that makes 18 divided by 6 which equals 3 and viola: lace 2 spokes and leave the 3rd one out and you should be fine. You can cross them however you want and the length also still calculates the same.

it's amazing how you get off on talking shit about people's bikes, without knowing anything about them.

I've been building frames for 2 years now and know more about bikes than you about your cracked out mother, so go jerk off on someone's pista, but keep the real cyclists alone.

If this doesn't read as a glaring example of what NOT to say on velospace, I don't know what does.

Yuck, btw.

since you know how much I spent on this bike you are also "qualified" to judge my knowledge about bikes, based on your opinion.

The only ugly thing I see is your dumb ass comment.

just the wheelset on this bike has more style than anything you could ever come up with besides that I that I didn't rag on anyone. You asked for a feedback so I gave you one if you wanna leave me some feedback go ahead.

are rags... iDanaAnn, your bike sucks too. Greg don't kill me...

Fat tubes are structurally more stiff and aerodynamic so what are you talking about. Fat tubes and gussets are technically great if they've been placed right. It's all about performance... those old steel beaters of yours might look nice but compared to new frames perform like ass.

f8ck looks and names they won't make you a better rider...
only hipsters and 0SCOOTERS believe that

yeah...Im sure a fucking colnago pista isn't up to par with a ginat bowery....good call

your interpretation of my comment baffles and amuses me so immense that I can't help but to answer it. I was talking about aero tubes and modern components in general but it appears that you missed that fact. According to your dumb ass statement disc wheels are less aero than spoked wheels too? Or is that my dumb opinion now?

Here is my advice to you mr blonde373: read a comment before you try to evaluate and answer it!

In all honesty, it depends on the rider, not the ride. Obv. I don't know how you ride, but 'fat tubes' aren't going to help you if you're not a good rider. (not saying you are a bad rider)

edit: sick build btw, nicest bowery i've seen yet.

Thanks
I agree. I was just trying to explain the aerodynamics of aero tubes (or "fat tubes").

Yup 51 to 16 is pretty big (86 inches per rev) I been kinda experimenting and currently got 49 to 15 (88.2 inches per rev.) and am loving that but I also go on the track with that and yes it is flat where I ride. Your gear is pretty big too though (81 inches per rev.)
I have another setup I like to use with thicker traffic which is 51 to 17 which also gives me 81 inches per rev. (same as your 48 t0 16) so you see there is a lot of experimenting to be done... I currently got 52 to 14 on my pursuit which gives me 100 inches per rev which is getting close to hour record gears which are usually around 120 inches per rev (53 to 12). yup yup you can go overboard with them gears.

P.S. that frame is currently disassembled and I am using most of the parts on my higher end bikes... still love that frame though... so much work I put into that cheap bastard

Gipiemme Parade but they only come for the road so I converted the rear one with a new hub.

hows thats 32h hub to 16h rim holding up? any issues, im planing on doing it.

so far it holds up well... as long as you don't take it on the track. I was riding it on the road for a little over a year or so before I decided to bring it on the track... it kinda twisted up a little bit under the pressure, meaning it flexed a lot. It is totally fine on the road though even in a sprint but for the velodrome it is not recommendable.