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  1.  
    so i ordered these last night: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002I7REEI/ref=pd_lpo_k2_dp_sr_2?pf_rd_p=486539851&pf_rd_s=lpo-top-stripe-1&pf_rd_t=201&pf_rd_i=B002I7K5YO&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_r=1BRKM6PDAY8ZSNKXETZZ

    to go with my visp frame: http://cgi.ebay.com/fixed-gear-track-Frame-set-700CX47-49-51-53-55-57-59CM-/280556993395?pt=AU_Sport_Cycling_Frames&hash=item41527ffb73#ht_1817wt_1064

    the frame says it requires "106-108 68mm english bottom brackets, so i figured a 107mm would be ok

    on the page of the cranks it says "Uses 107mm square taper BB"

    but on the bottom description it reads: BB Interface Type - JIS Square Taper (103 spindle recommended, chainline 43.5mm)"

    so now i dont know who to believe, or which bottom bracket to get to fit my frame and crankset. sorry for all the n00bness, this is my first build ever.
  2.  
    As a general rule, you should go with the specs provided by the manufacturer of the cranks.
  3.  
    As in, go to the Origin 8 site and look it up.
  4.  
    http://www.origin-8.com/?page_id=91&short_code=Origin-8+Track%2FSS+Crank&cl1=CRANK+ARMS+%26+SETS

    looks like they're 103mm

    would that make this crankset incompatible with my frame?
    • CommentAuthorpolitburo
    • CommentTimeApr 7th 2011
     
    should be fine.
  5.  
    There are manufacturing differences between cranks, so a frame manufacturer making a blanket statement regarding spindle BB width is pretty useless (bb shell width is different, however). I would be willing to bet that the recommended setup will work fine. But if you're worried, the easiest thing to do would be to look for a VISP with an Origin 8 crank on it, then determine whether the user is running the Origin 8 recommended BB width or something wider.

    Sound good?
  6.  
    Posted By: suicide_doorsThere are manufacturing differences between cranks, so a frame manufacturer making a blanket statement regarding spindle BB width is pretty useless (bb shell width is different, however). I would be willing to bet that the recommended setup will work fine. But if you're worried, the easiest thing to do would be to look for a VISP with an Origin 8 crank on it, then determine whether the user is running the Origin 8 recommended BB width or something wider.

    Sound good?


    thanks, looking around cant seem to find anyone with that combo, a straight chainline is a must for me. I could always cancel the origin 8 crankset and look for a 107mm one.

    will a 103mm BB work with that visp frame?
    • CommentAuthorpolitburo
    • CommentTimeApr 7th 2011 edited
     
    SHOULD BE FINE


    edit. Arent you the same guy that said aesthetics are more important than function?

    Why do you care if your chainline is straight? are you going to be taking lots of moneyshots of the chainline?

    For someone for whom aesthetics are so important, those are some pretty brutal welds on that frame.
    • CommentAuthorveggie
    • CommentTimeApr 7th 2011
     
    Posted By: Paulo Douradoi think my needs for aesthetics overcome my needs for performance.
  7.  
    Posted By: politburoSHOULD BE FINE


    edit. Arent you the same guy that said aesthetics are more important than function?

    Why do you care if your chainline is straight? are you going to be taking lots of moneyshots of the chainline?

    For someone for whom aesthetics are so important, those are some pretty brutal welds on that frame.


    just don't want the side of the teeth on my cog catching the side of the chain, it's loud, annoying, wears down components and crooked chains have slipped on me before.

    I still dont know if i should purchase a 103mm or a 107mm bottom bracket
  8.  
    Origin8 bottom bracket maybe?
  9.  
    • CommentAuthor2poler
    • CommentTimeApr 7th 2011
     
    I have the Sugino Messenger BB on my VISP . It is a 103 and works just fine.

    http://www.google.com/search?q=Sugino+Messenger+Bottom+Bracket+68x103+JIS&hl=en&tbs=shop%3A1&aq=f
    • CommentAuthorncecchi
    • CommentTimeApr 7th 2011
     
    GET THE BOTTOM BRACKET THAT GOES WITH THE CRANKS.

    ORIGIN8 takes a 103mm BB just like all Sugino RD2 re-brands.
    • CommentAuthoriliketoes
    • CommentTimeApr 7th 2011
     
    Why are you buying bike parts from amazon?
    • CommentAuthorveggie
    • CommentTimeApr 7th 2011
     
    Posted By: iliketoesWhy are you buying bike parts from amazon?


    Why not?
    • CommentAuthoriliketoes
    • CommentTimeApr 7th 2011
     
    Posted By: veggie
    Posted By: iliketoesWhy are you buying bike parts from amazon?


    Why not?


    Personal aesthetic choice. I dunno, I stick to bike specific retailers because Amazon is doing fiiine without my bike-related patronage (textbooks for days). As far as this thread goes it's really a non-issue.
    • CommentAuthorveggie
    • CommentTimeApr 7th 2011
     
    Posted By: iliketoesPersonal aesthetic choice.


    wha?
  10.  
    Posted By: veggie
    Posted By: Paulo Douradoi think my needs for aesthetics overcome my needs for performance.


    if you think aesthetics are important, why the fuck did you order those ugly ass origin 8 cranks in the first place?

    IMO,if you want cheaper cranks with good quality, for $100 the andel cranks from bens are much nicer.
    http://www.benscycle.net/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=188_193_660&products_id=1532

    and this is the BB that you need for them http://www.benscycle.net/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=188_247_1708&products_id=9452
    • CommentAuthorper.k
    • CommentTimeApr 7th 2011
     
    agreed ecc +1
 
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