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What are your best winter commuting tips and tricks?

December is upon us and the great winter commute is in full effect. Riding our bikes through the coldest, wettest, nastiest weather of the year is challenging and fun. What tips and tricks do you have to help you get through the cold?

This discussion is open from November 30, 2007 through the cold weather.

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skull neoprene face mask

i had to punch a few extra holes in it for breathability... but it looks so bad ass.
http://flyingtigerssurplus.com/big-id-7-shbgid-9938.html

i'll ride in my underpants

i'll ride in my underpants as long as i got a great set of windproof gloves and windproof ear protection.

ArlieMarshall ,puttin' up my dukes and givin' a damn.

BAD WEATHER.

TODAY MY FRIENDS AND I RODE THE AMERICAN RIVER BIKE TRAIL IN SACRAMENTO
IN THE RAIN. IT WAS SICK!! A LITTLE COLD BUT SICK. IT'S NICE WHEN YOU CAN GET THE LADIES OUT ON FIXIES.. ESPECIALLY IN THE RAIN..
-REMYT1

Bike and a backpack

I've been riding this past two weeks to work here in Maine! It's f-in cold, but it's been an adventure. People look at me like an OUI victim and I ignore the ones who may be rude like I'm not supposed to be on "their" road. I stop at all intersections and use hand signals. The problem is that the ice is covering the safe zone so rather than wiping out I need to stay out towards dry pavement. Bummer for them! I wear jeans, a thermal shirt, longsleeve T and a woolie mammoth sweater that covers the tops of my thinsulate gloves, as well as a friggin redneck hooded flannel. I just need a scarf to keep the moustache from icing up. I have a real warm rasta hat with ear flaps and a back pack. I also use old bike lights and replace the bulbs with tireflies for the rear and a halogen light on the front. Safety is a big key! Everyday is getting easier as the folks get used to seeing some crazy bastard riding on the same morning that they burned 4 gallons of gas warming up the vehicle and still wear winter clothes after it warms up. I feel damn good!

A windproof shell and insulation...

is what I wear to keep warm. I wear a polypropylene or wool jersey and tight fitting "sweats" (can't afford expensive gear and haven't found poly or wool at the thrift store yet) under a nylon shell. On my hands I wear thin wool under thin leather, a fleece head band for my ears under my helmet and thin wool socks under my leather sneakers. When it rains I rely on an old 1-piece motorcycle rain suit I've owned for almost 20 years and doesn't breathe too well but it works in keeping me dry. Granted the temperature has only gotten as low as 8°F on my morning commute but the above works for me.

mitten shells and discount layers

I've been wearing thin cotton gloves under Moss Brown mitten shells for years, never have a problem with cold fingers unless the vibration is bad. I layer tight "tech" t's, both long and short sleeve (Ross Dress for Less ) and discount running tights under business casual, top it with a cheap Land's End anorak shell that is loose to breath but also waterproof. I can get to work, spend 5 min in the restroom and put the clothes in the anorak front pocket. I put it back on at night and get home. Only drawback is slush. I've conceded slush to gaiters and duck shoes, keep a pair of other shoes at work.

Smartwool and Hot Toddies

I recently invested in their midweight long-underwear and they are amazing, worth every penny. I also own about 15 pairs of Smartwool socks and I wear them year round. I also wear a lightweight but waterproof Novara cycling rain jacket over layers and it works great. Novara is REI's house brand for bike stuff and a great source of inexpensive, quality bike apparel.

My favorite concoction for after a cold ride:

Hot Toddy:
Boil water
Pierce a slice of lemon with 5 or 6 whole cloves
put a teaspoon of honey in the bottom of a glass or mug
pour the hot water over the honey and mix
add lemon
top off with Bushmills!

Honey can be substituted with Agave nectar if vegans abound.

wool and leather

My setup is good for my 2.5 mile commute to work when it's near and below freezing.

For my feet, I have a cheap pair of leather shoes that work well against the cold, and they fit well in my toe clips.

For my torso, I wear an undershirt; shirt; thin wool or cheap cashmere sweater (BJ's/costco); thin wool scarf; a light/thin "tech" jacket I got from the clearance rack in EMS that is more or less a windproof layer; 180 earmuffs; and, my helmet, for which I now have a fitted cap for rain, but after wearing it once I think it'll also do fine to keep my head warm. I also wear a messenger bag that adds a little insulation to my back.

Generally, my legs don't get too cold, but on really frigid days I wear long underwear.

For my hands, I have these gloves that I think are meant for mechanics that allow for fine motor movement. They're made up mostly of a synthetic leather and polyester, which keeps off the bite and works good enough to keep most of my hands warm. The gloves are cheap. Could probably get them at Pep Boys, or hardware store.

cold tips

In the winter, or cold, I used to always get these terrible headaches/earaches from riding in the cold/wind, but now I wear foam earplugs and I don't get them. anyone else get earaches from cold weather riding? try earplugs if you do..

frostbite free ears?

I'm just a girl on the street..

What do you use that works best under your helmet or on your own for keeping your head warm, ears included. I used to wear a flap hat from Amsterdam... Needless to say I was hit twice in the same month by a car and started (by force) to wear a helmet a Citi by Bell. Now I'm left to keep trying different hats, caps, etc with the helmet, but my ears are still left out in the cold.

Thanks in advance for any help.

wool earflaps hat

I have one, and it works great under the helmet:

http://www.walzcaps.com/caps_wool-earflap.html

winter clothing and head gear

Take it from an iceboater, the gear is important and worth the expense. There is not bad weather, just bad gear. For truly cold days nothing beats a balaklava. It can slide up over your mouth. If its windy and below 20, I wear ski googles (same I wear for iceboating). When it it just above freezing, I have a Seirus Dome Hat with excellent earflaps (.00 at http://www.campmor.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?productId=39190461&memberId=12500226 You can water proof your feet with neoprene socks. You need to wear wool or polartec sock underneath. They are waterproof, except if your tights or pants are soaked the water will wick in through the top of the neoprene over sock, so take care. Remember with your feet spinning, there is more wind than just your forward motion. Keep your head and core warm, it actually helps the toes. David Travis

Winter hat

Gore Winter hat.Made especially for wear under your helmet. They cover the ears as well. Light and they wick sweat away too. Also a beanie. this is a lightweight version that is made by gore or craft and is excellent but does not cover your ears.

Mike

you either need a

you either need a balaclava(don't remember how to spell it), even a thin one makes a huge difference. they're those things that kinda look like the things scuba divers wear, they cover your whole head with a hole for your face. I've also got a thin nylon feeling headband that covers my forehead and goes over my ears, I wore that for the first time today instead, and it seemed to work fine too.

the best tip

riding everyday 25+ commute miles, SEALSKINZ, they are the best for dry feet, they seem to fit even the tight shoes, but I ride lakes mx 80, and they are more ventilated than my ex-wife and twice as cold on winter days, but a pair of woolie's and my sealskinz keep me dry and warm for about 45 min of heavy rain(normal here in oregon) been wearing them for about 5 years and have never replaced them yet cuz they still work great.

feet

My feet always get soaked, I guess that's what I get for wearing vans in Portland when it rains all the time. Other than that, I get too hot and layer up too much.

fenders and mudflap

The solution to wet feet is easy: full fenders and a mudflap. I've commuted year-round in Boston for two years now, and they're the only way to go. Beyond helping keep you dry, both have the added advantage of keeping gunk (in Boston's case, a toxic mixture of sand and salt) off your chain, crank, etc. End result: Less maintenance, longer-lived components, and dry feet.

glasses

i wear glasses to see, so a bandana over the face like a train robber just blows air upwards and fogs my glasses, but works well in eugene oregon (not that cold) works well so far for face heat. so i have two tips for those with glasses. the first is two tear the metal strip out of a ruler and roll it up in the top of the bandana, then bend it so it fits over your nose to keep the breath down. the second is to leave the bottom of the bandana loose when you tie it to help with the condensation, it works for a bit and its cheap.

winter Commuting

tip one; don't over dress! once you start sweating you'll cool off too fast.
tip two; a scarf will allow you to breath warmer air and can be easily removed while riding.
tip three; leave the cycling shoes at home, they have too much ventilation- wear old hightops or hiking boots that let you wear thicker socks and use toe clips to let you sport the beefier shoes.
reteptterrab

Grow a beard!

I realize this option isn't available for many cyclists for reasons of sex or genetic roulette, but for those of us who can pull it off, it turns out evolution steered us right when winter hits.

But why can't I grow or stop it at will? It's hardly fair.

Grow a beard!

I'm just a girl on the street..

I wish I could grow a beard. As a girl it would be awfully scarey, and I don't think my boy friend would dig it. But, hell my face would be toasty warm.

winter tips

stay the hell away from manhole covers

Fixed... and waxing chains

Just dipping your chain in multan wax does a really good job of keeping it fresh despite the salt.

I recently started riding fixed gear hear in ithaca,so between the combination of snow and hills its great for stoping, I might be a little bit crazy because I am still riding 20m slicks, and although they do not always give me enough traction to go up the hill coming down is great because I can skid as often as i need to and still remain in controle, if we could get rid of the cars I would be set

My Winter Commuting Advice

I recently wrote this article on the subject of winter commuting. It's more of a rough guide than a technical how-to.

wet coast commuting

Here in Vancouver we don't get the bitterly cold days that you get out east, but we do get our fair share of miserable days. 1°C, raining buckets with lots of wind and if we're lucky we get the rain/sleet days. What I've found is that biggest weakness in my gear was the gloves, after searching for a couple of seasons for a glove that will stay warm in the wet and wind was near impossible until I had a conversation with a friend of mine who suggested getting some paddling gloves. Great suggestion, went to the local MEC and picked up a pair of their neoprene paddling gloves and the problem was solved. My hands are now warm on the wettest and windiest days.

Next thing to tackle, how to ride on black ice. Any suggestions?

riding on black ice

there are tire nanufacturers who make steel studded tires. if you do not wish to use studded tires keep tire pressures low, 20-25psi this will help the tires to not rebound and step over small bumps in the ice. get off the seat into the attack position don't touch the brakes and steer a straight line. ice is usually perfectly flat when it freezes because of gravity

be calm and relaxed. carryihg speed helps because it gives the tires less time to slide outin the spots where no tracion is available. speed and cheap heavy tires help to creat centrificle force in the wheels and help the bike keep going straight.

warning to the wise. if you aproach a patch of ice and you see the bike sliding out from under you in your mind you will tense-up to brace for impact and this is will probably happen. if you are unsure of yourself break out you helmet abd knee and elbow pads.

black ice

A friend of mine rides on studded tires (Nokian) through the Michigan winter. He says they work really well on ice, but they are noisy and slow on clear pavement.

studded tires

Picked up a pair of cheap Innova Huskies 26x2.2 on line. Lotsa studs not carbide. If it's real cold like 10 F or below I air them up so just the center studs contact cause the ice is plenty sticky at that temp. OTW I drop the pressure a little to improve the contact area and work a little harder. It's only 10 miles a day, believe I'll get another two seasons out of them.

studded tires

I've got a pair of Nokian Hakkapeliitta studded tires that are 700c x35. Excellent in every way. Never slipped, but then I don't try to. I got a wider pair of Nokians on my mountain bike that are also sure footed. I love hearing the noise, because it tells me that the tips are still making contact.

One extreme, I've hear of is to deflate mountain bike tires all the way and then wrap a bicycle chain (extended) around the perimeter (best to find a tread that fits the chain) and then re-inflate. That's what you need for frozen lakes. I imagine that they would be too noisy on pavement.

David Travis

studded tires are the way to go

I got my first set of studded snows -- yes, Nokians -- and they're great. Yes, they're a little slow on pavement (and certainly noisy), but I'll take 'em over falling down. I'm very good in adverse conditions, having ridden in Denver and now Boston, but ice is ice. The biggest thrill with the studded tires was riding right across a completely iced-over plaza. I would have been a dead man on regular tires, but instead rode over in total security -- even *tried* to skid, and couldn't manage.

studded tires

The Nokian tires are worth it. I use them all winter on a Cross bike for commuting/riding and a mountain bike for trails. Before I started using them I would break something every year. You never know when you are going to hit a slick spot in the winter. Pain free for three years now.

black ice

It's a weird phenomenon round here this time of year, it'll be clear and cold over night, down to about -3°C, then in the morning the fog will roll in and coat everything in a very thin layer of moisture. This layer of moisture will freeze on contact making cycling on anything other than peoples lawn a very hazardous en devour.

two cents

In NYC it hasn't gotten TOO cold just yet, but it will. one of my favorite winter accessories would have to be a Thermasilk undershirt.

http://www.terramarsports.com/category.php?nv=1|1|3

This coupled with a long or short sleeved t-shirt (depending on the temp) and a slightly insulated wind proof shell provides a nice warm core on even the most bitter of days

I understand they also make glove liners and balaclavas. I can vouge for the liners in 0°C+ weather but for sub zero conditions, snowboarding Mits work great.

One of the most important things in winter riding is the convertibility of ones attire. Make sure you are able to ventilate yourself as you begin to overheat.
questions?, this may help:

http://www.icebike.org/Articles/strategy.htm

After Six Years of Daily Commuting I've Learned a Few Things...

I live in Northern Ontario, Canada, where our Winter temperatures will average around -17C or 0F, but have a tendency to dip down to -25C or lower for weeks at a time. I owe no car, instead relying on my alloy stead to commute to work and wherever else life may take me.

As far as warmth goes, we are all different (Personally I wear shorts until -5C), but a few points are universal. Wear multiple layers, preferably things that can be removed or opened easily should you start to overheat. A wind/water proof outer layer is a must, as are thick Thermal socks.

Many people like to have a full face covering, but I personally find this causes too much moisture to settle in my lungs leading to wheezing and general discomfort. A balaclava with a mouth hole works well for me. Add a pair of earmuffs, a warm touque, and some snowmobile mitts and you should be good to go.

As far as components go, it again depends on the conditions in your local area. We get lots of snow. Most traversed trails and walkways pack down quickly due to the cold temperatures, making them rather easy, while roads are covered in thick slop from the vehicle traffic. I have been running Specialized Chunder 2.3 on my winter bike with a lot of success. Great traction, with predictable slide, and excellent shedding abilities.

That being said, when biking through slushy streets, keep an eye on the treads of your front tire. Should they become completely packed, you will quickly loose traction and be subject to extreme deviations.

Other equipment notes, would be to keep it simple. Gears may make things easier to push, but become packed with snow and freeze quickly becoming useless. Consider a single speed setup instead. The trick is to find the ratio that you are comfortable with.

Keep your chain and sprockets safe with a good lubricant that prevents rust. I recommend the Krown series of products. This stuff is used to undercoat cars, and can be found in a few formulas. The newest being a foamy industrial chain lube, which although thick, has the best coating and rust prevention/removal I have experienced thus far.

Ditch the rim brakes, and upgrade to some mechanical discs instead. The rubber pads become hard and freeze, and any friction against the rim causes melting and further freezing. Rim brakes will cause you nothing but frustration, so save yourself the trouble.

And the final note to add to this novella of information is to get a good set of fenders. If you have been riding without, you will curse your stupidity the instant you ride with a pair. I went through 5 years, getting soaked from head to foot, before throwing down to buy some. It was the best money I have ever spent, and I curse every ridiculous day I rode without them previously. Small investment, HUGE payoff!!

Well, Dress warm, Roll Safely and Enjoy it!

words of wisdom

Thanks for the insight -- much appreciated. One addition (noted at top in another post): if you don't have one already, get a front mudflap. In my experience they make as much a difference as going from no fenders to fenders.

really appreciate this info!

really appreciate this info! thanks.

this is great! thanks

this is great! thanks

Mask & Solid Tires

My winter survival guide.

A mask,
http://www.respro.com/popup_techno.php

and solid tires.
http://www.rpmb.ca/

I've used masks for 3 years and I never ride in the winter without one.

I don't believe Respro's filtering claims, but they do get damp quickly and the moisture helps retain a lot of heat making the air temperature irrelevant, so I can still sprint and breath deeply.

Solid tires means no possibility of flats, so pot holes and debris hidden under the snow just mean a bump during the ride, instead of a flat and changing tubes in the slush/snow.

But I don't recommend solid tires for summer riding. They tend to come off the rim when enough lateral force is applied, but in the winter slowing down to under 30km/h for turns is required due to the snow and ice.

keeping warm

i don't commute, but i've been riding this winter. i find that after 15 or 20 miles, my toes are frozen despite wearing like 3 pairs of socks. other than that, in freezing temperatures, i have no problem keeping warm. what does everyone else do to prevent frozen feet?

frozen feet

Sock
Plastic Sack (cheap one from corner store)
Sock

Did wonders for me in Chi-Town

JT

that will keep water out,

that will keep water out, important in a wetter climate, but if you aren't traveling through slush or other external wetness, the plastic willonly make the feet wet with sweat.

if one is good, three must be better, right?

you are wearing too many socks.

The warmth provided by socks is in the air pockets the knit allows, which is why thick yarn is warmer than thin yarn.

What I suggest is one pair of thicker socks. Pay close attention to how tight they are in your shoes though.

Too many socks also leads to

Too many socks also leads to foot-squeezing, which leads to poor foot circulation.

Joshua is right

Smart wool makes socks in a bunch of different thicknesses for this reason. I like them because they are safe in the washing machine.

it is very important in winter to avoid cotton socks. Cotton wicks and sticks, but polypropylene and wool wick the moisture away from your skin, which makes either inherently warmer than cotton.

Yeah, Smartwool is

Yeah, Smartwool is fantastic. Expensive but long-wearing and they work spectacularly.

chemical warmers

You can get chemical warmers that you can put in your shoes around the toes. They might help. I have this exact same problems, except that my fingers freeze too.

chemical warmers

go to a hunting/fishing store and get toe warmers, they also make them for hands and other parts. they are a patch that sticks to the outside of your sock, and last around six hours

Bandanas!

Put a bandana on your head to keep the wind off your noggin and wear one in front of your face under your helmet strap. It'll get soaking wet from your breath, so set it up to dry as soon as you arrive. When you leave, switch their positions so the dry one is in front of your face and the damper one is on top of your head, which will dry out in the breeze quickly.

Good winter biking gloves are expensive! I use work gloves from Home Despot. They keep the wind off the knuckles and have great finger flexibility as well as being grasp-shaped. as opposed to seems good to me, particularly since I lose my gloves every spring.

Ginger Tea

A great hot drink that does aid circulation is Ginger tea. I know that sounds awful but is in fact very good for blood circulation.
Recioe.

Use about half a thumb length of fresh ginger.
Slice it up very very thinly. You dont ned to peal it.(I find it easier to slice it than to chop it up).
Now put about a liter of water in a pan and bring to the bpoil. When Boiling add the thinly sliced ginger. Allow this to cook up again and then let it simmer on a low heat for 15 to 20 minutes.

Thats it. Simple!!!

Now Drink it with honey and lemon mixed in. Delicious. And it is scientifically proven to aid blood circulation. I use this before and after a winter ride. Scandinavian winters are not known for their meekness.

regards
Chainwheel.

The best drink after a

I think the best drink after a winter ride, is homemade Irish Creme.

1 c Irsh whiskey
14oz sweetened condensed milk
1 c heavy cream
5 eggs
2 Tbs chocolate syrup
2 Tbs espresso (chilled, hot will cook the eggs)
1 tsp vanilla extract
1/2 tsp almond extract
3/4 tsp nutmeg
whatever other spices strike you

combine all ingredients in blender. Beat till smooth and silky. Adjust flavoring as needed, but keep in mind it will mature in 2-3 days. Keeps well in fridge.

very tasty in coffee, or on its own, or on ice cream.

I'm not sure if this will improve circulation though.

Ginger Tea, mmmm yum!

This is not cycling related, but I love ginger tea.

Here is my recipe:

1 cup of skim milk
bring to a boil
add 2 teaspoons of sugar
add 2 teaspoons of black tea leaves (Indian grocery store)
crush and add 1cm ginger root
boil concoction for 3-5 minutes
filter through sieve and serve hot
P.S. You can add a hint of nutmeg powder or one crushed cardamom for added flavor

This tea is fabulous for winter. I am actually considering getting a really small thermos flask that I can tuck in my jersey pocket and carry this tea in there.

32F, 40F not a big problem. Pollution sucksssssss......

Here in Turin (Ita) it goes to 32F for the morning commute. With that temperature if you commute about 4 miles, then you can basically dress if you would walk. I commute 12 miles one way. In this case, I have to protect a little better the feet. The good thing about the winter is that you can control swetting much better. Just by opening a zipper of few inches you cool off so much to zero swetting.
Reflective gear is then very important, since at least one way is at dark.
In this particular region of the world we get pretty high diesel particulate pollution during most of the winter. It is not totally clear how to deal with this pollution, since especially the small size one (10um, 2.5um) is the most damaging. Somebody wear a breather mask, but they are said to be useless for the real harmfull particulate. I do not know yet what to do. One British designer developped this :
http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/4836/casquewy6.jpg
+
prototype "Breathe Air"

Commuting

Head Down, keep spinning!! Use your lights. Do it to them before they do it to you!

Just a few to add

Ride just as you would any other time of the year, don't hold back, stay conscious that you need to prepare accordingly. with that:
1. get more rest, the cold weather literally sucks the energy from your body. Drink more water than you think you need.
2. Put a brake on your fixed gear, cold knees are more prone to injury.
3. Find access to a boot dryer.
4. I can't really say I do this too well, but, stretch.

Some of the best tips I've

Some of the best tips I've found were on Bike Winter Chicago. A few things that have helped this year: layering gloves, microfleece balaclava, and a regular cycling cap.

The really nasty cold hasn't hit Chicago yet. The worst we have had is a few days of 15 degree weather in the morning, which is perfect for the balaclava. I find that for weather around 32 degrees a cycling cap + helmet is enough. I will get my snow bike uploaded soon (Bianchi BUSS)

Feet

I live in Sweden and it does get cold, very cold here. My feet suffer the most but I have to accept that. Still I use good thermal socks Then Good shoes. over the shoes I use those little blue plastic overshoes you wear at the dentist an dover that I put good quality all weather overshoes. It does work but after two hors of zero degrees plus biting winds I usually find its time to be home. Another good idea is a thermal drinks bottle with a warm sweet drink in it.

Regards

Mike
aka
Chainwheel


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