Pinarello Pista

for the message. I will run a brake but I'm gonna get some replacement forks and drill them intead of these originals... there's not enough meat in the original fork to drill them anyway.

Yeah I dunno whats going on on the bottom of this thread - it's become a whole other topic!

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You have no idea what you are talking about. The only reason keirin racing has a stamp is to keep things equal between riders. In japan they bet on keirin races so the stamp is to keep riders from have an advantage over another. Only certain companies get the NJS stamp and their parts have to make certain specs. Also, campagnolo made NJS stamped hubs.

I know what Nihon Jitensha ShinkÅ?kai means and the rules and purposes. Also Campagnolo manufactured complete NJS record groupset "not only hubs" and Cinelli stems and bars were also approved for a short period of time. The hidden meaning of those rules were to protect the Japanese cycling market, it's also the reason why Campagnolo and Cinelli pulled the plug in 2000 on Keirin races. The rules have been saturated for the past 20 years, no evolution at all. Basically today's whale killers Japs are making a killing on cheap NJS bike parts with kids who left their skateboards aside for a fix stamped bike. Now you have an idea what I'm talking about!

hahaha....very well said. ecept for the 'whale killing japs'part.but anyhow this bike is perfect.its the setup i always wanted when i started riding track bikes.and most every one else for that matter,before every one jumped on the njs bandwagon.

Unfortunately in 2008 the Japanese still kills whales and Canadian hunts seals.

Yea, this guy is absolutely from japan.. he knows everything. The NJS stamp was in place long before the hipster trend and had plenty of business before it. Of course a business will try and make money from something like this but do not act like they are only afloat because of hipsters.

Sorry bud but Japan ain't my place and your absolutely right, I know everything, also prior to NJS stamps there was VIA and BIA stamped parts on Keirin racers parts. If NJS goods are so great why are the Japs going wild on Ebay.com over Italian goods? Also I wonder why the UCI changed the Keirin venue at the worlds each year for Madison races instead? Let's face it, the Japs are protectionist and always will be. Also why isn't there an Ebay.jp anymore? Tomorrow morning when you wake up go to your nearest Starbucks and smell what's inside the shop. It will clear up your head and your confusedness.

May I suggest good ol' Montreal?

One more thing Gone,
may I ask why you care so much for the NJS approval on Italian goods?

yeah, japan is super protectionist. but that doesn't negate the fact that they make really high quality/finish bike parts. only one of which can be said of the italians. campag does use a stamp of approval - 'brev. campagnolo' or their 'c' in a diamond. few years ago that was the njs stamp, all the hip kids had to have em. and yeah they look good, but they break, end of story. that's the other side of why campag stopped making njs bits, lots of their hubs exploded under the high stress. and many of the left crank arms snapped at the insertion point, which they still do today (i've seen no less than three modern record track cranks snapped, within a span of maybe 2 years).
and besides the actual parts, it's all fashion/trend. just a few years ago, a few of my friends would only eat pasta/drink red wine, and everyone only rode italian bikes. so you'd have been there making fun of them, and talking about fascists and football thugs. relax.

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