General: Phil wood hubs for bolt on cog

I think that bolt on cog hubs are way more convenient and dummy proof than traditional track hubs. Unless there is something that makes these less durable/reliable, which there probably isn't if phil wood is willing to put there name on them, I'm going to jump on this bandwagon.

No chain whip, no lockring tool, no reverse threading. Any idiot can install a disc brake rotor with a torx, now any idiot can install a cog too. Phil needs to start pumping out some bolt on cogs so we can get this show on the road.

Yup, I just found them on the site. I need to wear my glasses apparently. $65, thats rough. The $50 ordinary cog is already super expensive. Those things are invincible though, my phil cog shows almost no wear after thousands of miles.

get a level hub. cheaper w/a more dependable cog interface. and they make a 15t!

I like the level hub but I'm hesitant to buy a hub that I think is going to lose the standardization battle. The guy describing his hub making as a hobby doesnt inspire much confidence that those cogs will be available in the long term. Im assuming he's the only guy making them.

I'd assume its more dependable because it doesnt rely solely on bolts to secure it. The cog has cutouts that appendages on the hub stick through. The bolts just hold the cog tight to the hub. Thats my understanding at least.

Posted By: eaglerock

Posted By: fixedforgoodget a front mountain bike disc hub...problem solved and not $$$$$$$$$$$

Axle length?

Or, you could goWhite Industries, which has a toothed interface that still uses a lockring, but the cogs range 14-20T.

i really like that hub too.

Posted By: ESRya everyone over looks white industries. theyve been doing this for a while...

They have, and their gear is great. I have a WI rear hub in my VooDoo/CX Frankenbike; coasting makes the very cool, very purposeful Angry Bee Sound. Plus, their support is very much on the ball. I sent them an email late last week, about a problem getting an ENO BMX freewheel off an old Phil hub; I got an answer back within 30 minutes.

Posted By: the rabbi

Posted By: ESRya everyone over looks white industries. theyve been doing this for a while...

for a while? it was just introduced last year, man.

It's open to interpretation, whether ESR meant "rear track hubs with nonstandard cog fitting" or bike stuff generally. Some of us preferred to take the more generous interpretation.

level has been doing it for 3-4 years