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    • CommentAuthorINNOVATOR
    • CommentTimeJul 3rd 2009
     
    I'm using a Ducati Corse mountain bike. I ride an average 30km daily, with an average speed of 23 - 25kph, on the road. I don't do cross country or off road. I cycle mainly to exercise and keep my weight down.

    I started cycling a little over a year and a half ago. I just clocked 13,200km yesterday. I was 199.5lb before I started cycling. I trimmed down to 150lb in 6mths, when I got on my bicycle. I don't diet, but I don't eat rice and I try to have dinner before 8pm.

    My "dilema" :) is what pedals to get now, as my current basic ones are squeaking quite badly, especially on hard pedaling? I'm on the road most times; at times other traffic really don't give a damn about cyclists, so I've got to be ever ready to avoid them and accidents. I've read a bit on the clipless - pros & cons (special shoes and possible falls in emergency stops) and platforms. Should I get magnesium platforms or clipless. thanks.
    • CommentAuthorsfbee
    • CommentTimeJul 3rd 2009
     
    Clipless. I use shimano spd's and have no issues with them
    • CommentAuthorlewis 123
    • CommentTimeJul 3rd 2009
     
    like he said go clipless
    best decision i ever made
    • CommentAuthoreaglerock
    • CommentTimeJul 3rd 2009
     
    Definitely clipless. They're scary at first; but the payoff is huge - a lot more of your energy gets transferred into the cranks, and so into forward motion. You will fall down at first - that just goes with the territory. Practice riding around on a grass field for awhile, until you get used to clipping and unclipping the cleats*. But once you've gotten accustomed to it, you seldom fall over; I do it about once every six months, and only when I'm at crawling speed.

    As for the cleat type, that's mostly a question of taste. I could never get used to SPDs. I was never confident of clipping in; sometimes my foot flew loose when I thought I was attached, and other times my foot was fixed when I thought I was loose. I switched to Crank Brothers, and they've worked like a charm. I run Candys on my mountain and 'cross rigs, and Quattros on my road bikes. Unlike SPD, all the CB pedals use the same cleats (although road shoes use an adaptor/sleeve that guides the cleat onto the pedal). That way, I can wear "mountain" shoes on "road" pedals, and vice versa. Not two hours ago, I was picking up an eBay purchase from a seller in my home town, who said he was switching all his road bikes to Crank Brothers, just so he could use shoes interchangeably.

    *It's unfortunate that the terms of art are "clips" and "clipless", since the cleat mechanisms are clearly clips, and clip/unclip is clearly the logical way to refer to the practice of getting in and out of such pedals. But there's 40-odd years of tradition that says "clips" mean cages that hold the toes of your shoes in place along with a strap; so we're stuck with it. The fixed-speed as street bike fashion just means we'll have to wait longer for that terminology to die.
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    Absolutely go clipless. The kind of riding you do really asks for it. You'll be very happy you did. Honestly getting out of clips becomes no more difficult than getting your foot out of cages once you get used to it. Instead of pulling your foot back you just do a slight twist motion and you're free. You'll probably perform a couple of 0mph falls when you first get used to it but it really doesn't take long to get it down.

    I ride with cages but I ride a track bike and care way too much about having vans on me feet at all times. You seem like a more intelligent rider :)
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    Clipless all the way.
    You'll be happy with it.
    • CommentAuthoreaglerock
    • CommentTimeJul 4th 2009
     
    Posted By: iron jaidenI ride with cages but I ride a track bike and care way too much about having vans on me feet at all times.

    And y'all need to lose the Vans and get yourself some hard-soled oldie Dettos/Duegis/SIDIs. The only bike I ride with toeclips is my Bianchi - but the difference between sneaks and SIDIs is striking.

    Lousy for off the bike, but you can't have everything. I'm just trying to find a retailer that carries the new Vittoria 1976 line, so I can get a bit of a walkable heel and an SPD cleat option. Unfortunately, I suspect Crank Brothers isn't going to make celeste pedals anytime soon.
    • CommentAuthorAaron C
    • CommentTimeJul 4th 2009
     
    Posted By: eaglerockVittoria 1976


    those shoes are so slick, i'd really like a pair.. though i am kinda wary of riding any shoe that laces up.
    • CommentAuthoreaglerock
    • CommentTimeJul 5th 2009 edited
     
    Posted By: Aaron Ci am kinda wary of riding any shoe that laces up

    Most shoes in which I ride lace up. I like the ability to customize my fit by futzing with laces, a big deal for me since my left foot is substantially larger than my right. Lace management is definitely an issue. I've tried a number of things: double-knotting the bow, shoving the tied ends under the laced section, strapping loose ends to my shoe or my ankle with reflective velcro ankle straps. The best option has been on my Shimano MT-30s, which have a tabbed elastic strap across the tongue area, under which you stuff the lace loops. A second option is Yankz!, a gimmick I found a Sports Basement a few months ago. You replace your laces with a long elastic, which has a clamping mechanism to hold everything in place; basically, it turns your sneaks into loafers. I don't think it's a great option if your feet swell a lot, since it's a hassle to tighten/loosen once the whole thing's put together; but it's better than nothing.

    For my oldie leather SIDIs, I double-knot the bows. That seems to work fine.

    Temporary thread-jacking: What shoes do people use, how are they fastened to the pedals, and how are they fastened to your feet?

    • SIDI Dominator 2 - Crank Brothers cleats/velcro/ratchet strap

    • Shimano MT-122 - Crank Brothers cleats/velcro

    • SIDI Genius 4 - Crank Brothers cleats/velcro/ratchet strap

    • Shimano MT-30 - Crank Brothers cleats/laces

    • Puma Suede - toeclips or flat/laces

    • Puma Basket - toeclips or flat/Yankz! laces

    • SIDI clipped - toeclips/laces


    Although a couple of cyclebloggers have received 1976es direct from Vittoria for testing, I've yet to find anyone in the US that carries them. Torelli is the US distributor, but they don't list the shoes on their site. So far, the only e-tailers that I've found that carry them are in the UK.

    EDIT: Performance and Nashbar are also listed as retailers. The 1976 isn't on their sites, either.
    • CommentAuthorwes m.
    • CommentTimeJul 5th 2009
     
    My favorite setup is shimano m160 mountain shoes (3 offest velcro straps and a little carbon in the sole) to crank bros candys.

    I've got some old shimano 105 pedals that use slotted track cleats, clips, and straps. I'd never recommend those for street use
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    I like my Bebops a lot. They are, in fact, a little scary to get used to, but as I understand it no scarier than most. They have a lot of float but exceeding the float just pops your feet off the pedals. They're much more comfortable on my knees — particularly my right one, where my foot points out.

    I've taken two tumbles that I miiiiight not have taken were I in toe clips, but both were at approximately zero mph.
    • CommentAuthorigethypey
    • CommentTimeAug 13th 2009
     
    just wondering, how do custom nuevos compare to sylvans? besides having replaceable parts, they look pretty much the same to naked eye. do they ride better?

    currently riding sylvans now, but in need of pedals for my next bike. will be used mostly commuting/possibly some track time.
    • CommentAuthorthe rabbi
    • CommentTimeAug 13th 2009
     
    Posted By: igethypeyjust wondering, how do custom nuevos compare to sylvans? besides having replaceable parts, they look pretty much the same to naked eye. do they ride better?

    currently riding sylvans now, but in need of pedals for my next bike. will be used mostly commuting/possibly some track time.
    for just commuting, you'll be good with sylvans. take the money you save and get some clipless pedals for the track.
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    I prefer the MKS RX-1's over the Nuevo's and Sylvans. They are smaller and cut better for going around corners and also are lighter.
    • CommentAuthorLyKqiD
    • CommentTimeAug 13th 2009
     
    I dont ride clipless, but I am not saying it isnt a better pedal config then cages... however, does everyone just bring a change of shoes with them whenever they ride?

    I dont have an affinity for vans (though I like my air forces), but I could never ride clipless because I would never carry a change of shoes. Besides most shoes that are offered look like you are either ready to ride a century or stepping out of a Prince music video.
    • CommentAuthorthe rabbi
    • CommentTimeAug 13th 2009 edited
     
    function>fashion. i leave my boots at work. and i'll just hang out in my clipless shoes. if i'm going to be doing a lot of walking off the bike, i'll bring another pair of shoes.

    Posted By: terrible_one49I prefer the MKS RX-1's over the Nuevo's and Sylvans. They are smaller and cut better for going around corners and also are lighter.
    taken from Sheldon Brown The rx-1 is 60g lighter, 5mm wider, and nearly $100 more than the sylvans.

    feel the difference in the bearings? maybe
    bling? yes.
    more pedal than you'll ever really need? probably

    imo, i can't justify the price/performance ratio
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    Only wider in the back, not in the front. They are smaller up front than the Sylvans.

    They usually sell for around 40-50 bucks on Ebay, which is not much more than Sylvans new. So, if you're riding straps, I think their worth it.

    Anyway...I ride clipless w/ mountain shoes now. Much better.
    • CommentAuthorthe rabbi
    • CommentTimeAug 13th 2009
     
    Posted By: terrible_one49Anyway...I ride clipless w/ mountain shoes now. Much better.
    you're doing it right
    • CommentAuthorcloud
    • CommentTimeAug 14th 2009
     
    agreed. clipless definately and mountain pedal/cleat/shoe preferably. spd's are fine but TIME ATAC is a huge upgrade.

    road shoes/cleats/pedals only have their advantages on a road bike you don't intend to have to walk in.

    eaglerock, you mentioned a road shoe with 2 whole, MTB cleat option... i've found this to be a horrible experience (at least for a fixed gear). one pair of my hard bottomed road shoes had this so i through some spd pedals in there so i could have an option other than my ugly, heavy mtb shoes for 30-60 mile road rides on my fixed gear (which is what i commute on so i keep a mtb, clipless set up on there all the time). cleated, softer bottom (mtb) shoes are way more accepting than having to be 100% percise in matching cleat to pedal (while the cranks moving due to it being fixed). if i tried to clip in and was a tiny bit off, my foot (slippery carbon or other synthetic surface) would slide off the slippery tiny metal surface of the pedal which was all the more frustrating in traffic or on a group ride.
 


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