How-To/Mechanics: This is the last time I force Toshis through Sylvans!
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- CommentAuthorKyle No 27
- CommentTimeJun 30th 2009
But for now, that's the task at hand. I've already clipped a little leather off the ends of the straps so don't tell me to do that. These things are really fighting me, and are about to win the fight. Can someone give me some good advice on getting them through the pedal a little easier, before I snap?! -
- CommentAuthoreaglerock
- CommentTimeJun 30th 2009 edited
First off, if you're about to snap, stop trying. I know from where you speak; I have a pretty low frustration threshold, and I find that if my fiddling doesn't lead to satisfactory results quickly enough, I blow my stack and destroy/toss the offending inanimate object. This doesn't solve the problem, and it gets expensive.
Second, if it comes to carving up the $80 toe straps or replacing the $30 pedals, I think that's a pretty easy call: Get pedals that will fit the straps, rather than carve up the straps to fit the pedals. Unnecessarily applying cutting implements to fabric or leather isn't a good plan - you're introducing a potential point of failure.
FWIW, if you don't want/can't afford to buy deluxe pedals right now, nonlaminated leather Christophe and Sakae straps fit MKS Sylvans just fine; that's what I have on mine, while I'm hunting for Campy C-Records. -
- CommentAuthorthe rabbi
- CommentTimeJun 30th 2009
they fit tight for a reason. put the pedal in a vice (wrap it with a rag). grab the strap with a set of pliers and pull. -
- CommentAuthorKyle No 27
- CommentTimeJun 30th 2009
Do you twist them? I twisted my first pair and I kind of think it's not even worth the hassle. I really don't see them moving around much twisted or not. -
- CommentAuthorthe rabbi
- CommentTimeJun 30th 2009
i never twisted mine, but i hear it makes it stiffer. it makes sense in theory. i ride clipless 90% of the time so when i'm in clips/straps, i'm usually not worried about stiffness. -
- CommentAuthorRuffinit
- CommentTimeJun 30th 2009
It doesn't necessarilly make them stiffer, a few years back when toe straps were only made from leather and used in inclement weather (rain) they would stretch as they got wet. (These were usually racers using them) So in order to keep them from having the buckle slip around to the point it put you foot together, they would twist them to keep this from happening. That's the reason, pure and simple, twist if you like, if they fit tight or you don't take it out in the rain or you are using synthetic, don't bother. -
- CommentAuthorKyle No 27
- CommentTimeJun 30th 2009
Alright, straps are in, twisted them just for the hell-of-it since vice grips and a vice make it so much easier. I'm seriously just going to skip the forums and PM you, the rabbi, any time I need advice. -
- CommentAuthorCh3n207
- CommentTimeJun 30th 2009
I have mks sylvans with toshi straps. All you have to do is sand down the metal and it will fit perfectly. It'll take you 30 minutes per pedals. Lol -
- CommentAuthorChato
- CommentTimeJun 30th 2009
Twisting does reduce flex, but it also leads to quicker deterioration of the straps. As was mentioned above, if you have to use sylvan pedals, grab a file and go to work on the pedal. Otherwise, spend a little extra cash and get better pedals. -
- CommentAuthorm2
- CommentTimeJun 30th 2009
You should really just dremel the sylvans.. I swear it took me 10 mins max to do it. Luckily I had the right tools too. Just don't grind down too much, then its too loose. I probably only shaved off .5 mm for a snug fit. Just grind and test fit. -
- CommentAuthorWalkingDead
- CommentTimeJul 1st 2009
I had a pair of Toshis in Sylvans, twisted, and they eventually ripped in the twist. But I had them for a few years, and they had a decent amount of weather exposure. They also weren't too tight, so my foot pulling on the clip/ straps may have added to the failure. -
- CommentAuthorKyle No 27
- CommentTimeJul 1st 2009
Posted By: WalkingDeadI had a pair of Toshis in Sylvans, twisted, and they eventually ripped in the twist. But I had them for a few years, and they had a decent amount of weather exposure. They also weren't too tight, so my foot pulling on the clip/ straps may have added to the failure.
I will be completely content if they hold strong for a few years.
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