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- CommentAuthorcal09
- CommentTimeJun 27th 2009
In the LA 323 AREA know of any good ones? thanks -
- CommentAuthorthe rabbi
- CommentTimeJun 27th 2009
ummm. orange20? -
- CommentAuthorcal09
- CommentTimeJun 27th 2009
Posted By: the rabbiummm. orange20?
where would that be? and thanks -
- CommentAuthorsfbee
- CommentTimeJun 27th 2009
You can find directions here -
- CommentAuthorcal09
- CommentTimeJun 27th 2009
ahh yes but of course! -
- CommentAuthorthe rabbi
- CommentTimeJun 27th 2009
melrose and heliotrope (sp?)
jim and kyle are the shit!
whenever i'm in la i always make sure to stop by. -
- CommentAuthorold_soul
- CommentTimeJun 27th 2009
LA Brakeless is a good one. The guys that work on the bikes are great. not sure about the others tho. -
- CommentAuthorsimonweiss
- CommentTimeJun 27th 2009
I've been to LA Brakeless a few times. Really nice guys, good selection. -
- CommentAuthorcal09
- CommentTimeJun 28th 2009 edited
directions? lol jk thanks guys imma be sure to stop by next week for a tune up hope it dont cost to much lol i just hope they not dicks lol casue i dont know to much about these bikes -
- CommentAuthorthe rabbi
- CommentTimeJun 29th 2009
just don't go to LAB to get mechanics done. they put my friend's cranks on at a 150 degree angle.
IMO, go to a shop that knows how to fix bikes; not a shop that knows how to fix fixed gears. -
- CommentAuthorcal09
- CommentTimeJun 29th 2009
ohh so the bike shop in my neighborhood would do? -
- CommentAuthorthe rabbi
- CommentTimeJun 29th 2009 edited
Posted By: cal09ohh so the bike shop in my neighborhood would do?
out of all the "urban" shops in la that i've been to, orange 20 is by far the best. they have everything and anything you'd ever need or want. clothing, bags, racks, parts, helmets, etc. they have everything and are very knowledgable.
plus, you can go next door and get some vegan food. across the street and get ice cream, and then go to the bicycle kitchen. -
- CommentAuthorcal09
- CommentTimeJun 29th 2009 edited
plus, you can go next door and get some vegan food. across the street and get ice cream, and then go to the bicycle kitchen.
ahh yes but of course vegan food :) not my tip of the boat but thanks
i meant like the shops with the old mexcian dude lol -
- CommentAuthorRuffinit
- CommentTimeJun 29th 2009
How about some nice juicy corn-fed beef or an Iowa chop?
Just jerkin' your chain Rabbi.. sorta
Thanks for helping to steer him right.. Too many times it happens that those that don't know, get taken advantage of; end up spending way too much for stuff that isn''t needed.. His Bridgestone is in pretty good condition all in all, it's just been neglected for a long time. -
- CommentAuthorthe rabbi
- CommentTimeJun 29th 2009
i'm not vegasn, but the food at pure luck is pretty delicious. plus they have a great beer selection.Posted By: cal09plus, you can go next door and get some vegan food. across the street and get ice cream, and then go to the bicycle kitchen.
ahh yes but of course vegan food :) not my tip of the boat but thanks
i meant like the shops with the old mexcian dude lol -
- CommentAuthorcal09
- CommentTimeJun 29th 2009 edited
haha shittt aint old enough to leaglly drink but ill get a bum to buy me one
and dont worry man even if its the best part i aint paying more than 50 dollars for anything i dont care wat teh part is i aint planning on racing just riding it for fun and school thanks Ruffinit for all ur advice so far and u to rabbi thanks for the shops
yea its been neglected i found it in my friends garage. -
- CommentAuthorthe rabbi
- CommentTimeJun 29th 2009
what exactly are you trying to do with the bike? if you want to make it a fixed gear you're gonna need a little more than $50 if you want to use new parts. -
- CommentAuthorcal09
- CommentTimeJun 29th 2009
Im planning on just fixing it up and make it look good and be able to ride it around la know wat i mean? :) -
- CommentAuthorthe rabbi
- CommentTimeJun 29th 2009 edited
tires/tubes, tape, cables, etc should cost around $70. bring the parts across the street to the bicycle kitchen and they'll show you how to put everything on! -
- CommentAuthorcal09
- CommentTimeJun 29th 2009
ok i just bought some white VITTORIA RANDONNEUR tires but i need help putting them on do they charge alot to put some wheels on my bike? -
- CommentAuthorthe rabbi
- CommentTimeJun 29th 2009
Posted By: cal09ok i just bought some white VITTORIA RANDONNEUR tires but i need help putting them on do they charge alot to put some wheels on my bike?
you might want to return those. your wheels are 27" on that bridgestone, not 700c. -
- CommentAuthorcal09
- CommentTimeJun 29th 2009 edited
awww dude really? fuck if only i knew :( wait if they are 28c they wont fit? -
- CommentAuthorthe rabbi
- CommentTimeJun 29th 2009
28 is the width.
you need 27" x 1 1/4" (by the looks of it)
but check the tires that are on there. -
- CommentAuthorcal09
- CommentTimeJun 29th 2009
Posted By: the rabbi28 is the width.
you need 27" x 1 1/4" (by the looks of it)
but check the tires that are on there.
wat do u mean by check the tires? my tires?
casue on some pots one guy was saying he did that and teh only difference is that its harder to brake -
- CommentAuthorcal09
- CommentTimeJun 29th 2009
is it possible to put these tires on these kind of bikes? -
- CommentAuthorRuffinit
- CommentTimeJun 29th 2009
Cal, dude.. Listen, the tires are the rubber part, wheels are the hub (axle), spokes, rims all together. The wheels are 27", the tires have to be the same size as the wheels. When you look at the tires presently on your bike, they will have the size on the sidewall which may be difficult to find. The tire should say 27x1 1/4. These tires and wheels are sized in normal SAE (inches). The Vittorias that you bought are for 700c wheels only. 27" wheels are slightly larger than 700c wheels.
The guy that was talking about the braking was talking about changing out both the tires and wheels and because of the difference in size the brakes may not always contact the rim properly. So in order to make this change and keep the white tires, you would also have to change out both wheels, tubes and possibly brakesets. Think $$$ -
- CommentAuthorcal09
- CommentTimeJun 29th 2009 edited
damnn lol i guess noo on that plan :( all i wanted were some white tires -
- CommentAuthorcal09
- CommentTimeJun 29th 2009
so all that would come out to more than 100? -
- CommentAuthorthe rabbi
- CommentTimeJun 29th 2009
yes. quite a bit more. -
- CommentAuthorcal09
- CommentTimeJun 29th 2009
okie thanks alot guys now i know not to pay for them lol
thanks again and if any has tires in my size tell em thanks! -
- CommentAuthoriron jaiden
- CommentTimeJun 29th 2009
Jesus christ cal you really need to stop by the bicycle kitchen and have them explain a few things about your bike to you before you go out there into the wild with a pocket full of cash. I mean it man. Just walk in and say "hi, I have a bicycle and I don't know anything about it but I would like to learn. What is my next step?"
Don't take offense. It's just that you clearly don't know much about bicycles and you really need someone to give you some hands on instruction rather than trying to get people here to type it out for you. I don't know how to fish. We've all got our things. -
- CommentAuthorgreg
- CommentTimeJun 30th 2009
Posted By: iron jaidenI don't know how to fish.
You're going to need a pole, some fishling line, some bait...
anglerspace.org coming soon! -
- CommentAuthorcal09
- CommentTimeJun 30th 2009
haha this guy a pocket full of cash ur to funny but yea ill check in with them by the end of the week Its just i didnt know that older bikes and newer ones have different tire models -
- CommentAuthoreaglerock
- CommentTimeJun 30th 2009
Posted By: cal09haha this guy a pocket full of cash ur to funny but yea ill check in with them by the end of the week Its just i didnt know that older bikes and newer ones have different tire models
Not just old vs. new; there are at least five different sizes of wheels on currently manufactured adult bikes (20" BMX, 26" mountain, 650b euro-touring, 650c triathlon/TT, 700c road/29" mountain), and a wide variety of rim widths in each of those sizes. Each wheel size uses its own tubes/tires. There are two different air valves: Presta and Schrader, each with rims drilled to accept the differently sized valves. And that doesn't even scratch the surface of all the wheel/tire sizes that are no longer widely used.
27" was the common size for English road wheels until about 1980. Since big English manufacturers like Raleigh sent tons of bikes to the US, it was also the common size in the States. During the 60s/70s, a lot of European brands put 27" wheels on the bikes they sent to America, although the ones that stayed in Europe used 700c wheels. This is most common among the French bikes (Gitane, Motobecane, Peugeot are the biggies); it's much less common among Italian manufacturers. Because there are still a lot of '70s bikes/27" wheels around in America, you can still get tires/tubes for them (a lot less variety than 700c; you take what you can get). But someday, those will go away.
It's a deep subject. The late great Sheldon Brown has a great explanation of the different wheel/tire sizes, what they're used on, and how to figure out which one you need. As Hillel said: The rest is commentary; go and read it. -
- CommentAuthorcal09
- CommentTimeJun 30th 2009
yea i read his articles and they were pretty explantory i guess but like when i search things on ebay and what not almost nooooo tires that size pop up and peopel tell they dont really make them mowadays unless its a custom -
- CommentAuthoreaglerock
- CommentTimeJun 30th 2009 edited
Posted By: cal09almost nooooo tires that size pop up and peopel tell they dont really make them mowadays
Well, people may not make them; but tire companies make them. Two tires that absolutely are made in 27" are:- Continental Ultra Gatorskin (one of the best-loved fixie-skidster tires)
- Panaracer Pasela TG (gumwall, for the oldie look)
These tires are widely available in bike shops. It's a lot more common to find the Panaracers in 27" than in 700c. Don't go to a chain; go either to a store for fixie-hipsters (those old recycled fixie-ized road frames mostly use 27" wheels), or better yet, a shop run by an older guy. Older-guy shops tend to have more older-guy customers, who want to keep older-guy old bikes running. In the US, that means '70s English and French frames with 27" wheels.
Just because the young guy at the shop tells you it doesn't exist, doesn't mean he's right.
I very much doubt that anyone makes custom tires, now that Dugast has retired. -
- CommentAuthorRuffinit
- CommentTimeJun 30th 2009 edited
Posted By: eaglerock
Older-guy shops tend to have more older-guy customers, who want to keep older-guy old bikes running. -
- CommentAuthorRuffinit
- CommentTimeJun 30th 2009
Who you callin' "Older-guy"? -
- CommentAuthoreaglerock
- CommentTimeJun 30th 2009
Posted By: RuffinitWho you callin' "Older-guy"?
I'm callin' me an older guy. I don't know who's the oldest guy around here, but I've got a couple of years on stinky pete, which pretty much puts me in the Grampa Zone around these parts. I conclude from your retort that you're in my generational peer group, which is anyone who's old enough to remember what they were doing the day Nixon resigned, but wasn't in college yet.
Is there something wrong with being an older guy? Whoops; too late for me, then... -
- CommentAuthorcal09
- CommentTimeJun 30th 2009
lol to funny u old people u nah i respect yall old guys whos nuts havent busted from riding them
and yea but wat im trying ti find are some gosh darn colored wheels i dont really like that black and gum color ut if no other color is avaliable then black it is :( THANKS guys for ur help! -
- CommentAuthorRuffinit
- CommentTimeJul 1st 2009 edited
Posted By: eaglerock
Posted By: RuffinitWho you callin' "Older-guy"?
I'm callin'mean older guy. I don't know who's the oldest guy around here, but I've got a couple of years on stinky pete, which pretty much puts me in the Grampa Zone around these parts. I conclude from your retort that you're in my generational peer group, which is anyone who's old enough to remember what they were doing the day Nixon resigned, but wasn't in college yet.
Is there something wrong with being an older guy? Whoops; too late for me, then...
Fair enough, I rightly take my place there too.. The old shops are where the good stuff is found anyway!Posted By: cal09wat im trying ti find are some gosh darn colored wheels i dont really like that black and gum color :(
I've never much been big on colors other than gum-walls, and did not find any other colors, but Schwalbe makes at least two models in 27" which are black with white pin-stripe sidewalls. At least they have a different look if that's what you're after. -
- CommentAuthorcal09
- CommentTimeJul 1st 2009
Lol ehh i want something nright casue u know in la cars run over u and say ohh no i didnt see him
but yea thanks for the info Ruff and eaglerock for those links to the tires :) -
- CommentAuthorthe rabbi
- CommentTimeJul 1st 2009
get lights. -
- CommentAuthorcal09
- CommentTimeJul 1st 2009
Posted By: the rabbiget lights.
lol ill think into that -
- CommentAuthorsfbee
- CommentTimeJul 1st 2009
Posted By: the rabbiget
lightslasers. -
- CommentAuthorthe rabbi
- CommentTimeJul 1st 2009
Posted By: cal09
don't think. you should never ride your bike at night without lights. a cop pulls you over and it's a big ticket.Posted By: the rabbiget lights.
lol ill think into that -
- CommentAuthorcal09
- CommentTimeJul 1st 2009
yup ur right i cant afford parts let alone a ticket thanks! -
- CommentAuthoreaglerock
- CommentTimeJul 1st 2009
Posted By: the rabbi
Posted By: cal09
don't think. you should never ride your bike at night without lights. a cop pulls you over and it's a big ticket.Posted By: the rabbiget lights.
lol ill think into thatPosted By: cal09yup ur right i cant afford parts let alone a ticket thanks!
It's funny. I was writing a post about how you should have a light because the California Vehicle Code says you gotta (and it does); and then the rabbi says basically the same thing, and you agree.
Now I have to say: It's not just the law and so punishable by fines-for-failure; it's also a good idea. If you don't have a light, cars can't see you. If they can't see you, they can squish you by accident.
Consider this experience...
I was recently walking around in the Crate and Barrel Outlet about a mile from my house. I was wearing my normal late afternoon/early evening helmet - a Pro-Tec skateboard helmet with a caver's headlamp strapped to it. One of the cashiers walked up to me - a woman about 50 years old. She asks:
Woman: "Are you a cyclist?"
eaglerock: "Yes...."
Woman: "I just wanted to thank you for wearing that light, and I wanted to ask why more cyclists don't do that. I often can't see cyclists at night until I almost hit them, and it upsets me."
eaglerock: "They're supposed to do something like this; the vehicle code requires them to have some kind of headlight after dark."
Woman: "Really? I had no idea. Why don't they do that?"
eaglerock: "I have no idea. I think it's a good idea, but I'm in no position to speak for every cyclist, just as you're in no position to speak for every driver. Just keep your eyes open, and try not to hit anybody."
A number of us indulge in rather resentful fantasies (All drivers are trying to kill us! They all hate us and seek our destruction!), just as a number of motorists indulge in resentful fantasies (All cyclists are scofflaws! They ride with contempt for the law, and for the safe progress of traffic!). In both cases, I suspect that those so indulging are a small but vocal minority; most cyclists and most motorists are just trying to get where they're going, with as little drama as possible. Most of us aren't trying to inconvenience others; mostly neither cyclists nor motorists notice each other, until it's too late. Take sensible precautions.
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