General: Gorilla vs Bareknuckle?

Hello people,
I am new to this forum so i figure a quick introduce would be in place.
My name is Lennart, i live in The Hague, Netherlands.
I have been riding BMX for a good couple years now, nothing fancy, i'm 34 now and most of the kids i ride with are half my age and they can easily "outtrick" me on a bike..
As far as i can remember i have always been interested in bicycles of whatever kind and since a while i have been considering building up a fix.
Perhaps some may think i'm just another hipster jumping on the fixie bandwagon and you're probably even right, although i like to look at it myself as "getting inspired by other fixed gear riders", i mean that's how i got into bmx in the first place and i bet the same goes for most people on here as well (no insult intended whatsoever).

After taking a decent amount of time to look/browse and learn about fixed gear bikes and parts, i think i've pretty much figured out what bike i want to build and wich parts will be put on.
Only thing i'm still not sure about is wich frameset to choose, i have seen a lot of very nice looking Bareknuckles on here, but my eye was also caught by the frames from Gorilla Bicycles (www.gorillabicycles.com), in particular the Zengang frames.
I have been in contact via email with the guy from HubJub.co.uk and he told me the Bareknuckles have a typical track oriented geometry (mainly a rather steep seattube angle), where the Gorilla frames' geo is a bit more street orientated with slacker angles). I have no intentions of going to a velodrome anytime soon since my plan is to build it up as a streetfix.
I could get a the last Bareknuckle (54cm) from HubJub, but i think it may be on the small side for me (i'm +/- 180cm or about 6ft?), so i was considering to order a Zengang in 56cm.
There's about a GBP 100,- price difference, but i don't want to smack myself in the head later on because i didn't get the frame i wanted most just to save a couple pounds or euro's.

My parts/wishlist so far is as follows:

frame/fork: EAI Barekuckle/Gorilla Zengang
headset: SolidBikes 1-1/8 needlebearing with steel cups (still have this from an old bmx, these are the strongest headsets as far as i know)
wheels: Mavic Ellipse
stem: Thomson Elite mtb stem
bars: risers, not yet sure wich ones
post: Thomson Elite
seat: no idea yet, probably some mtb/bmx slim seat
crankset and bb: Sugino's, either RD2's or 75's
pedals: no idea yet
chain: KMC z510hx or a Shadow Interlock chain
tires: preferrably white ones :) or perhaps a Soma Everwear in the rear for skids

I know not too many people own a Gorilla so there's probably not a lot of info about them, but i was hoping to get some feedback on wich of these frames the people on here think would be better and WHY?
Also, any other comments or suggestions on the parts i've picked so far are more than welcome!
Thanks in advance!

Thanks! You think the big fit could be because of the steep(er) seattube angle?
It actually does look very similar to a Gorilla, or perhaps the Gorilla's look a lot like Bareknuckle's...

Can you post pics in a thread using [img] [/img]?
If so, here's one of a very nice Gorilla built up:

EDIT: Ok, [img] tabs don't work, but you can see how much they look alike, only i have no idea what size this frame is..

I just figured it out myself, but thanks anyways :)

I ride a 58cm Bareknuckle and I'm 6'0" with long legs. It's BARELY too big. I would probably fit a 56cm perfect, but oh well. BK's run big.

I absolutely love my Bareknuckle frame. I find it handles more sturdy and solid than ALL other track frames I've rode (IRO, Fuji Track, Pake). I thought the EAI Gorilla was the same as the BK, but with better tubing, better dropouts. I don't think the geometry changed, but I guess I was wrong. Anyway...I'm saying the BK handles VERY solid and comfortable on the street.

A suggestion I might make is instead of the Sugino RD or 75's...check out the new Omnium track cranks. I just changed out from my Sugino 75's to the Omnium, and I must honestly say, I prefer them more. They are just as smooth and stiff, but drastically lighter and look great with the BK frameset.

The Mavic Ellipes is a good choice for a wheelset for this bike also.

Posted By: terrible_one49I thought the EAI Gorilla was the same as the BK, but with better tubing, better dropouts. I don't think the geometry changed, but I guess I was wrong.

Two different frames:
1. EAI/Toyo Godzilla
2. Gorilla Bikes- Brand name; he's referring to one of their models that looks very similar to a Bareknuckle.

well, i'm 6' with a ~31-32" inseam and i'm showing ~6" of seatpost. you're riding a 58cm with about 7-8" of seatpost showing. by my calculations, w/proper leg extension, that puts you at about ~34" inseam. for 6', i have average (i'd say) length arms. again, you're riding a 58cm frame with a stem that is 1cm longer than mine with bars that have deeper drop and more reach than mine and your stem is slammed. granted, i need a 110mm stem to be where i want to be at, but that still gives you about ~3" longer arms than i have (if you have a proper fit or are stretched out, i do not know). i guess i should have said you must have gorilla arms. you just must have really long arms and legs.

Well, I have to say Rabbi...that I've never had my biker properly fitted to me, and although I feel fine riding it everyday and for long rides, I'm sure some things might need to be changed if I had it properly fitted. I'm quite certain the BK has a really high bottom bracket as well, because my seat is the proper height up for my legs for pedaling, but when I have to put a foot down, it's abit too high.

Sorry for confusing the Gorilla frame for the Godzilla. I think the Gorilla would be a better choice, just because it's slightly cheaper and is easier to find than the BK. They both seem very similar.

it looks like both frames are made by the same manufacturer in italy.