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    • CommentAuthorThomWarr
    • CommentTimeMay 14th 2009
     
    Thought you guys might have similar stories...

    I got pulled over last night (for the first time, suprisingly)
    i was riding at night with my girlfriend around ten, and we were waiting in the left turn late for the light to go green when we hear a cop on his speaker "GET OUT OF THE ROAD!" just then the light went green so we continued left. the cop turned on his lights and pulled us over... saying we had to stay out of the road unless it had a bike lane, that we had no right to ride in the road cause we "arent motor vehichles"(EVEN THOUGH FLORIDA STATE LAW CLEARLY STATES OTHERWISE!) however, I didnt know the law number so didnt argue the point, said "yes sir... yes sir.." and went about with my ride. called up the police chief today and explained the situation he was furious (with the officer) and extremely appologetic (to me)

    Lesson learned... i printed up a copy of all the bicyle-on-roadway laws and am now keeping them in my underseat bag at all times for when the next ignorant cop pulls me over.

    EFF THE MAN....... ha.
    • CommentAuthorfixedpuch
    • CommentTimeMay 15th 2009
     
    One time I got pulled over for not having reflectors in my wheels. It was during the day time, I was really confused by the whole situation cause I even had my frog lights on my seat post and handle bar.

    Any body else understand why its necessary to have reflectors in your wheels during the day?

    Ive had other run ins as well.
    • CommentAuthorveggie
    • CommentTimeMay 15th 2009
     
    I was riding home from my girlfriend's one day and I hear a cop turn on his siren behind me. I got as close to the curb as possible and he pulled up beside me. He started to point toward the sidewalk, but I was mad so I played dumb. I pretended to not knw what he meant and made him fumble around for his window switch. He told me its dangerous blah blah blah. I didn't have my printed sheet that had the laws so I just got on the sidewalk until he was out of sight
    • CommentAuthorgiosSR215
    • CommentTimeMay 15th 2009
     
    Haha, I'm glad I live in the murder capital of last year, (Philadelphia). The cops here have much more to worry about then someone riding their bike in the street. haha.
    • CommentAuthorAaron C
    • CommentTimeMay 15th 2009
     
    i've haven't had many problems with cops in mpls/stpl but i've heard a few horror stories. they generally seem pretty friendly, in fact i saw a guy i know to be a cop riding stupor bowl this year. it made me smile.
    • CommentAuthorsfbee
    • CommentTimeMay 15th 2009
     
    Posted By: veggieI was riding home from my girlfriend's one day and I hear a cop turn on his siren behind me. I got as close to the curb as possible and he pulled up beside me. He started to point toward the sidewalk, but I was mad so I played dumb. I pretended to not knw what he meant and made him fumble around for his window switch. He told me its dangerous blah blah blah. I didn't have my printed sheet that had the laws so I just got on the sidewalk until he was out of sight


    That's when you pretend to be deaf, then try to start speaking in sign language while riding along side him ...

    I've been pulled over while riding through memorial park, by some idiot cop who insisted that i was obligated to ride on the paved walk way wherever they exist (regardless of the bike route and 'share the road' signs posted up and down memorial). I was also pulled over once for running a stop sign, even though I had pretty much slowed to a stop to ensure that no traffic was coming from any direction. He threw on his sirens and yelled at me through his siren for a bit, then I went on my way
    • CommentAuthorThomWarr
    • CommentTimeMay 15th 2009
     
    Posted By: sfbee

    haha thats great. if you really didnt anything wrong you know he would have taken that opportunity to legit pull you over and write you up for something.

    he was just in a bad mood cause his coffee was stale that morning. lol
    • CommentAuthorLyKqiD
    • CommentTimeMay 15th 2009
     
    How about a police officer who was caught on video clotheslining a messenger during a critical mass in NYC.
    Suck a stink was brought up over that video that the officer was tracked down and the messenger tried to bring charges against him...

    What was the final solution? Well the officer is probably now a crossing guard, and our right as bikers to assemble has been limited to 50. If there is a critical mass of more then 50 persons, it is considered a parade and all must demount from their bikes. If this law is not adhered to, officers must try to enforce it, ie. clotheslining kids off their bikes.
    • CommentAuthorveggie
    • CommentTimeMay 15th 2009
     
    Posted By: sfbee
    Posted By: veggieI was riding home from my girlfriend's one day and I hear a cop turn on his siren behind me. I got as close to the curb as possible and he pulled up beside me. He started to point toward the sidewalk, but I was mad so I played dumb. I pretended to not knw what he meant and made him fumble around for his window switch. He told me its dangerous blah blah blah. I didn't have my printed sheet that had the laws so I just got on the sidewalk until he was out of sight


    That's when you pretend to be deaf, then try to start speaking in sign language while riding along side him ...

    I've been pulled over while riding through memorial park, by some idiot cop who insisted that i was obligated to ride on the paved walk way wherever they exist (regardless of the bike route and 'share the road' signs posted up and down memorial). I was also pulled over once for running a stop sign, even though I had pretty much slowed to a stop to ensure that no traffic was coming from any direction. He threw on his sirens and yelled at me through his siren for a bit, then I went on my way


    I was listening to my now dead ipod so thats exactly what i did.
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    Posted By: LyKqiD If there is a critical mass of more then 50 persons, it is considered a parade and all must demount from their bikes. If this law is not adhered to, officers must try to enforce it.


    If there are 50 or more motorized vehicles together, do the same rules apply?
    • CommentAuthorRuffinit
    • CommentTimeMay 15th 2009
     
    Posted By: ThomWarri was riding at night with my girlfriend around ten


    Your girlfriend is TEN?

    Seriously, the idea of having the rules of the road available is great. Though I don't have any like these, I have been legitimately cited 5 times: speeding tickets 3 times, once for lack of brakes (young and stupid) and one morning my headlight failed about the time I was encountering a cruiser going the opposite direction and was cited for that. Washington and Oregon take a very different view of cyclists; they are to adhere to the rules governing motorists as a vehicle. Period. I love it, that's when you know where you stand.. In fact there are only ~50 miles of Wash. State highways and roadways that are restricted to cyclists.
    Oh, as far as the reflectors go; manufacturers are required by law to have them on the bikes for side visibility. They have nothing what-so-ever to do with daytime riding and you can take them off if you like. I have never seen a state law which requires them although they are safer than nothing. He was looking for someone to hassle and there you were.
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    Posted By: LyKqiD
    What was the final solution? Well the officer is probably now a crossing guard, and our right as bikers to assemble has been limited to 50. If there is a critical mass of more then 50 persons, it is considered a parade and all must demount from their bikes. If this law is not adhered to, officers must try to enforce it, ie. clotheslining kids off their bikes.


    It would be great if critical mass turned in into 150 kids all walking their bikes down the sidewalks. Make enough pedestrians complain for them to let you back on the roads.

    Cops in pittsburgh pretty much act like bicycles don't exist, which is nice for redlights, stop signs, and whatever else, but at the same time it sucks when a car tries to run you off the road and the cops could care less. I run redlights constantly with cops sitting right there and they've never so much as looked at me. I'd be perfectly fine with following more traffic laws, but I'm not doing it until cars do it first. I know I could take the high road and set the example before I complain, but I'm not the one killing people daily, so I'm really not the one who needs to be setting the example
    • CommentAuthorAaron C
    • CommentTimeMay 15th 2009
     
    Posted By: RuffinitOh, as far as the reflectors go; manufacturers are required by law to have them on the bikes for side visibility. They have nothing what-so-ever to do with daytime riding and you can take them off if you like. I have never seen a state law which requires them although they are safer than nothing


    169.222 OPERATION OF BICYCLE. subd. 6. ...The reflective surfaces shall include reflective materials on each side of each pedal to indicate their presence from the front or the rear and with a minimum of 20 square inches of reflective material on each side of the bicycle or its operator. ...

    i've never heard of any one getting flack for the "20 square inches of reflective material" you are supposed to have on both sides of the bike, and frankly i am not that concerned. but i thought you might find it interesting ruffinit. minnesota has very bike friendly laws and most cops are good about it. some are idiots but you can say that about anyone. just in case i always carry a laminated sheet with all the bike statutes on it.

    i also cary extra paper copies which i passive-aggressively hand out to jerk motorist (or crumple up and throw through their windows).
    • CommentAuthorstinky pete
    • CommentTimeMay 15th 2009 edited
     
    Sure, there are cops who feel the need to hassle, be it a cyclist, skater or motorist. If you know your right, ask to be written up so you can prove your right in court if you want to make a point. Just make sure that you CAN prove it.
    I don’t think that most of us are going to go through the hassle & expense of equipping ourselves with one of those little helmet mounted digital video cameras, but wouldn’t it be great to have a first person view of the infraction, stop & conversation with the cop to whip out before the judge?

    "Your honor, I submit to you that officer Cocky Dipstick is incompetent in his/her charges that have brought me here before you today. This is what I was sighted for, these are the regulations regarding such, & here is the full unedited video with audio of the entire matter in question...”
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    Posted By: Aaron C
    Posted By: RuffinitOh, as far as the reflectors go; manufacturers are required by law to have them on the bikes for side visibility. They have nothing what-so-ever to do with daytime riding and you can take them off if you like. I have never seen a state law which requires them although they are safer than nothing


    169.222 OPERATION OF BICYCLE. subd. 6. ...The reflective surfaces shall include reflective materials on each side of each pedal to indicate their presence from the front or the rear and with a minimum of 20 square inches of reflective material on each side of the bicycle or its operator. ...

    i've never heard of any one getting flack for the "20 square inches of reflective material" you are supposed to have on both sides of the bike, and frankly i am not that concerned. but i thought you might find it interesting ruffinit. minnesota has very bike friendly laws and most cops are good about it. some are idiots but you can say that about anyone. just in case i always carry a laminated sheet with all the bike statutes on it.

    i also cary extra paper copies which i passive-aggressively hand out to jerk motorist (or crumple up and throw through their windows).


    Subd. 11.Peace officer operating bicycle.The provisions of this section governing operation of bicycles do not apply to bicycles operated by peace officers while performing their duties.

    Now I think I understand why I see so many cops not using there turn signals & pulling U-turns...
    • CommentAuthorjayohachen
    • CommentTimeMay 15th 2009 edited
     
    Stinky Pete-
    If there are 50 or more motorized vehicles together, do the same rules apply?

    I think it's called traffic! HAR HAR. Seriously, keeping the rules in your back pocket/bag is probably the single most awesome thing I've read all year!
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    ^ Yea, hard to argue with that!
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    I've always thought it would be more fun to break critical masses up anyway. Break up into 5 groups of 25 people, and each group can just be 1 or 2 blocks behind the other one. They can't yell at you for there being too many, you cause more of a hold-up in traffic anyway, and if they try to complain about it, you're just acting more like traffic in the first place. Who says people have to ride around in one giant group for critical mass to be effective.
    • CommentAuthorThomWarr
    • CommentTimeMay 15th 2009
     
    Posted By: Ruffinit
    Posted By: ThomWarri was riding at night with my girlfriend around ten


    Your girlfriend is TEN?

    blockquote>

    hahahaha i realized i worded it WAY wrong... of course AFTER i posted it. lol

    for the record (and to avoid getting arrested) my girlfriend is 20. lol
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    police are so fuckin gay 98% of the time.
    • CommentAuthorLoneWolf15
    • CommentTimeMay 15th 2009 edited
     
    Posted By: GhostManOn3police are so fuckin gay 98% of the time.
    Overgeneralizing statements with insults and curse words are so annoying 100% of the time.
    • CommentAuthorLyKqiD
    • CommentTimeMay 15th 2009
     
    No matter how ghostmanon3 phrased it, he is right, all cops have an undeserved sense of self worth and accomplishment.
    • CommentAuthordeermatt
    • CommentTimeMay 16th 2009
     
    Im not sure why this even needs to be said .. Maryland law says " (b) Throwing objects. – A person may not throw any object at or in the direction of any
    person riding a bicycle, an EPAMD, or motor scooter"
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    One time, during a Critical Mass bike ride, some cops in cars and on motorcycles started to escort our group of bikers, like they have done in the past so we don't have to ever stop and they stop cars for us. However, this time...they escorted us most the ride, then guided us all into this fenced in parking lot and blocked off our only exit. They proceeded to give us all tickets. It was so fucked up.

    So now when any cops try to escort our critical mass rides, we just all stop and walk our bikes.
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    What are they ticketing for exactly?
    • CommentAuthorrobinyc
    • CommentTimeMay 16th 2009
     
    my girlfriend was just hit on monday by a nyc traffic cop. She had the right away and the cop ran a red light without any signals on. Extensive damage was done to my girls bike, she had to go to the e.r. and to top it off the traffic cop was out of her zone doing personal business on the tax dollar and started yelling at my girlfriend saying she ran into the car. Needless to say my lawyer has been contacted and we got lucky because a messenger saw everything happen.

    know your rights, and fight them if you have too.
    • CommentAuthorveggie
    • CommentTimeMay 16th 2009
     
    Posted By: robinycmy girlfriend was just hit on monday by a nyc traffic cop. She had the right away and the cop ran a red light without any signals on. Extensive damage was done to my girls bike, she had to go to the e.r. and to top it off the traffic cop was out of her zone doing personal business on the tax dollar and started yelling at my girlfriend saying she ran into the car. Needless to say my lawyer has been contacted and we got lucky because a messenger saw everything happen.

    know your rights, and fight them if you have too.


    Damn, that's fucked up.
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    Posted By: terrible_one49One time, during a Critical Mass bike ride, some cops in cars and on motorcycles started to escort our group of bikers, like they have done in the past so we don't have to ever stop and they stop cars for us. However, this time...they escorted us most the ride, then guided us all into this fenced in parking lot and blocked off our only exit. They proceeded to give us all tickets. It was so fucked up.

    So now when any cops try to escort our critical mass rides, we just all stop and walk our bikes.


    Oh, the tickets were for people not having bike lights.
    • CommentAuthordeermatt
    • CommentTimeMay 16th 2009
     
    please arrest every idiot involved in critical mass. What an ass backwards plan of attack for bicycle awareness..
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    Critical Mass would be cool IF those who choose to attend weren't militant.

    I'm tired of those people who smash their locks on cars and such, or the people who are so god damn self impotant because they ride a bike to work. I just want to stangle those that will break the laws in blatant fashion in a Critical Mass ride. Sure, go through a red light when their isn't anybody around, but please, when there are cops and news cameras around, DON'T. If cycling is to become a legitimate form of transportation with the support and infastructure is deserves, then we have to be nice little boys and girls. We are the minority, and therefore it takes some effort to get on the good side of those fat arrogant cops we've been talking about (though, I do respect most, upstanding police officers, just not the douche bags). Anyhoo, we all have those stories of the lack of respect shown from police or any mamber of the non-cycling public. That is what shows how far we need to come.

    Rant over.

    Kind of the opposite of most stories here, my commute to school when I went to BCC took me up a steepish hill. The speed limit up it was thirty five, and on the fixed I could manage about twenty if I really wanted to, but it was early in the morning and I was usually tired, so I'd ride up the sidewalk leisurely. On not one, but TWO occasions, I got hassled by a cop for riding on the sidewalk. This angered me for two reasons. A speed differential of 10 to 20 mph in the usually dark morning with tired drivers wasn't something I wanted to deal with, and I told him this. His answer: put some lights on. What he failed to notice were all the lights I had fitted to my bike. He also said it wasn't safe for pedestrians. Perhaps he forgot that in Bellevue, Washington, everyone is too busy driving their BMW 5-series around to walk anywhere, so the sidewalks are kind of a joke. He was courteous and all, but geez, give a guy a break.
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    I almost got a ticket for flying through a stop sign. I lied and said I didn't have ID and he let me go after chatting me up for a bit. My friend got pulled over for making a right turn on a red light without stopping!?!?!?! he must have been going really fast, or had almost hit a car or something.

    oh important question. how much is a running-a-red-light-on-a-bike ticket worth? reading BSNYC's blog, he claims it's in the "low triple digits" (in NYC). that seems ridiculously high unless you almost hit a car. Anyone know what it costs on the west coast? specifically the bay area?
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    I was pulled over by a cop two days ago...he wanted to know what my gear ratio was. He also worried about my bottom bracket because of how hard I ride.
    • CommentAuthorThomWarr
    • CommentTimeMay 17th 2009
     
    Posted By: KingsleyZissouI was pulled over by a cop two days ago...he wanted to know what my gear ratio was. He also worried about my bottom bracket because of how hard I ride.


    haha thats the best
    • CommentAuthorThomWarr
    • CommentTimeMay 17th 2009
     
    Posted By: terrible_one49One time, during a Critical Mass bike ride, some cops in cars and on motorcycles started to escort our group of bikers, like they have done in the past so we don't have to ever stop and they stop cars for us. However, this time...they escorted us most the ride, then guided us all into this fenced in parking lot and blocked off our only exit. They proceeded to give us all tickets. It was so fucked up.

    So now when any cops try to escort our critical mass rides, we just all stop and walk our bikes.


    you HAVE to admit.. thats pretty freakin' creative thinking. sucks nonetheless, but almost one of those (anchorman quote)"I'm not even mad... im impressed!" kind of deals.
    • CommentAuthorThomWarr
    • CommentTimeMay 17th 2009
     
    Posted By: robinycmy girlfriend was just hit on monday by a nyc traffic cop. She had the right away and the cop ran a red light without any signals on. Extensive damage was done to my girls bike, she had to go to the e.r. and to top it off the traffic cop was out of her zone doing personal business on the tax dollar and started yelling at my girlfriend saying she ran into the car. Needless to say my lawyer has been contacted and we got lucky because a messenger saw everything happen.

    know your rights, and fight them if you have too.


    damn, hope she is doing well!
    • CommentAuthorThomWarr
    • CommentTimeMay 17th 2009
     
    Posted By: deermattIm not sure why this even needs to be said .. Maryland law says " (b) Throwing objects. – A person may not throw any object at or in the direction of any
    person riding a bicycle, an EPAMD, or motor scooter"


    hahah so cars, pedestrians, dogs, children on (non-motored) scooters, mailboxes, motorcycles etc.. are free game?

    MAN! Maryland is all kinds of screwed up =-)
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    I was riding down the street and a san francisco bike cop was j walking his steel horse across the street very leisurely. He had no lights on and was not paying attention to me or any of the traffic that was rushing toward him. So he almost shit his pants when I screamed bike bacon right in his ear as i rode by. Bike cops are always riding on the crowded sidewalks being annoying.
    • CommentAuthorRuffinit
    • CommentTimeMay 18th 2009
     
    Aaron C, thanks for that information.. 20 square inches is a lot, bicycle alone it would be difficult to do, those wheel reflectors would have to be 10" long.. Is that for "dusk to dawn" or anytime? You'd actually have to wear arm/ankle bands to be legal.
    Don't get me wrong, I preach "be safe, be visible" and have commuted for years, but a law that relies on passive reflectors is not really going to do as intended. I have dbl halogen head lights, steady and flashing tail lights, reflective vest and ankle/wrist bands, all of which keep me safe and seen, but also required by the Military bases.
    BTW I commute 13 miles each way, even in the winter time with snow and ice, by switching to the mountain bike with studded tires. And in the winter in Washington state, it's dark both ways.
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    Posted By: RuffinitAaron C, thanks for that information.. 20 square inches is a lot, bicycle alone it would be difficult to do, those wheel reflectors would have to be 10" long.. Is that for "dusk to dawn" or anytime? You'd actually have to wear arm/ankle bands to be legal.
    Don't get me wrong, I preach "be safe, be visible" and have commuted for years, but a law that relies on passive reflectors is not really going to do as intended. I have dbl halogen head lights, steady and flashing tail lights, reflective vest and ankle/wrist bands, all of which keep me safe and seen, but also required by the Military bases.
    BTW I commute 13 miles each way, even in the winter time with snow and ice, by switching to the mountain bike with studded tires. And in the winter in Washington state, it's dark both ways.


    Are you at Ft Lewis commuting from Tacoma? I did that commute, & it was about 13 miles one way...
    • CommentAuthorRuffinit
    • CommentTimeMay 18th 2009
     
    No, in Bremerton (by the Fairgrounds) going into Bangor. (Navy)
    • CommentAuthordeermatt
    • CommentTimeMay 18th 2009
     
    Maryland Law - "(d) Brake. – Every bicycle and motor scooter shall be equipped with a brake that enables its operator to make the braked wheels skid on dry, level, clean pavement." If a cop asks , I have a coaster brake , cause I can skid my back wheel just fine :)
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    Posted By: RuffinitNo, in Bremerton (by the Fairgrounds) going into Bangor. (Navy)


    I figured out early that if I didn't ride in the rain, I didn't ride in Washington State. Builds character I must say...
    • CommentAuthorRuffinit
    • CommentTimeMay 18th 2009
     
    I somehow feel cheated when I don't get rained on..
    I'm here in Iowa now, I retired after 20 years. They've given me the nickname Rain. Seems like they all expect to get wet when they ride with me (motorcycle).. I have to say that the greater percentage of the time it's true. I live on a 1 mile gravel road in the middle of nowhere and have to say that it makes cycling challenging in a whole new way.
    • CommentAuthorThistle
    • CommentTimeMay 19th 2009
     
    Your idea for keeping a copy of the bicycle laws on hand is brilliant. I will do some searching and printing right this second.
    • CommentAuthorThomWarr
    • CommentTimeMay 19th 2009
     
    Posted By: ThistleYour idea for keeping a copy of the bicycle laws on hand is brilliant. I will do some searching and printing right this second.
    thanks =-) glad i could help.

    cops cant argue with solid facts printed straight from their state statue!
    • CommentAuthorAaron C
    • CommentTimeMay 19th 2009
     
    Posted By: RuffinitAaron C, thanks for that information.. 20 square inches is a lot, bicycle alone it would be difficult to do, those wheel reflectors would have to be 10" long.. Is that for "dusk to dawn" or anytime? You'd actually have to wear arm/ankle bands to be legal.
    Don't get me wrong, I preach "be safe, be visible" and have commuted for years, but a law that relies on passive reflectors is not really going to do as intended. I have dbl halogen head lights, steady and flashing tail lights, reflective vest and ankle/wrist bands, all of which keep me safe and seen, but also required by the Military bases.
    BTW I commute 13 miles each way, even in the winter time with snow and ice, by switching to the mountain bike with studded tires. And in the winter in Washington state, it's dark both ways.


    yea, i agree it is kind of ridiculous. i ride about the same distance as you (~11mi each way all year round in mn for work+whatever other riding) i have considered wrapping my down tube in reflective tape. i try to obey bike equipment laws--i value my safety and don't want to give surly cops any excuse to be a douche.i have never heard of anyone having trouble with that law though.

    i think most cops are much more worried about:
    Subd. 6.Bicycle equipment. (a) No person shall operate a bicycle at nighttime unless the bicycle or its operator is equipped with a lamp which shall emit a white light visible from a distance of at least 500 feet to the front and with a red reflector of a type approved by the Department of Public Safety which is visible from all distances from 100 feet to 600 feet to the rear when directly in front of lawful lower beams of headlamps on a motor vehicle. No person may operate a bicycle at any time when there is not sufficient light to render persons and vehicles on the highway clearly discernible at a distance of 500 feet ahead unless the bicycle or its operator is equipped with reflective surfaces that shall be visible during the hours of darkness from 600 feet when viewed in front of lawful lower beams of headlamps on a motor vehicle.

    also, those dumb little wheel reflectors that are required to be on all bikes when they are sold are deemed sufficient:
    Any bicycle equipped with side reflectors as required by regulations for new bicycles prescribed by the United States Consumer Product Safety Commission shall be considered to meet the requirements for side reflectorization contained in this subdivision.
    • CommentAuthorthe rabbi
    • CommentTimeMay 19th 2009
     
    Posted By: Crank PedalerI almost got a ticket for flying through a stop sign. I lied and said I didn't have ID and he let me go after chatting me up for a bit. My friend got pulled over for making a right turn on a red light without stopping!?!?!?! he must have been going really fast, or had almost hit a car or something.

    oh important question. how much is a running-a-red-light-on-a-bike ticket worth? reading BSNYC's blog, he claims it's in the "low triple digits" (in NYC). that seems ridiculously high unless you almost hit a car. Anyone know what it costs on the west coast? specifically the bay area?
    like $300+ in Las Vegas. It isn't ridiculously high because you're putting others besides yourself in danger. and you're allowed to turn right on a red, but you still have to stop. it's a red light.
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    police are so fuckin gay 98% of the time.


    That's a popular misconception. It's really only about 1 in 10.
    • CommentAuthorAaron C
    • CommentTimeMay 19th 2009
     
    ^ haha amazing
    • CommentAuthorsayheycoop
    • CommentTimeMay 19th 2009
     
    LAPD is cracking down on cyclists lately, mostly just for running red lights and the sort. someone i was riding with got something like a $275 ticket for running a red light!

    but anyway heres my story. i go to school at usc and on the edge of campus we have two intersections with all-way cross walks (meaning that all lights go red and you can walk any direction across the intersection including diagonally.) on my way out my friend and i rode our bikes through the intersection during an all way walking signal. keep in mind that thousands of college kids on their beach cruisers do this every day. down the road a cop pulls us over, really rude about the whole thing and writes a ticket and tells us to split it. he says since were vehicles that were running a red light. i understand that he is right but he targeted us, even though we have lights and helmets, over all the other college kids. and he was extremely rude. i usually have good encounters with authorities but this guy was a real douche.

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