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    • CommentAuthorSpency
    • CommentTimeApr 8th 2009
     
    Right now I'm trying to build a fixed gear for tricks.On the conversion I'm riding I have a 46-15 which is terrible! I was wondering what would be a good ratio for tricks and skidding. I was thinking 44-16. Any advice would help.

    Thanks,

    Spencer
    • CommentAuthorewurl
    • CommentTimeApr 8th 2009
     
    48/17 or 49/18, or if you want to keep the chainring, 46/19. bigger is going to be easier, faster accell. easier to lock, but a lower top speed( once you cant keep up with pedaling and you begin to bounce on your seat). Since youll be skidding quite a bit, Make sure your gear(fraction) does not reduce too low, or youll be spending alot of money on tires.
    • CommentAuthorSpency
    • CommentTimeApr 8th 2009
     
    Ok thanks
    • CommentAuthorjam guy
    • CommentTimeApr 8th 2009
     
    13/20

    In all seriousness I ran a 32/20 once. I got nowhere but I could ride backwards for miles. Backwards circles were fun also but eventually I would get whipped off my bike for going to fast. Just play around until your comfortable. Some people can run really high gears and still kill it. My legs are not that strong so I usually have a granny gear.
    • CommentAuthorSpency
    • CommentTimeApr 8th 2009
     
    I"m trying to master going backwards right now. Quite difficult. Right now i have some horrible one-piece cranks so i can't switch out the chainring. Once i get new cranks I will start playing around until i get comfortable.
    • CommentAuthorjam guy
    • CommentTimeApr 8th 2009
     
    Just pick up a pair of old shimano 105's for like 30 bucks. They will last your forever and they rule!
    • CommentAuthorSpency
    • CommentTimeApr 8th 2009
     
    Where can I get some?
    • CommentAuthorjam guy
    • CommentTimeApr 8th 2009
     
    ebay is always a good spot. Nashbar has new ones for about 80 I think.
    • CommentAuthorSpency
    • CommentTimeApr 8th 2009
     
    Thanks
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    10/11
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    i say 48x17 = good for skids~ good gear ratio too~
  13.  
    Posted By: muckymuckyi say 48x17 = good for skids~ good gear ratio too~

    thats mine i love it
    • CommentAuthorKayzle
    • CommentTimeApr 9th 2009
     
    I'm currently running 46-16

    What is a good gear i could run either keeping my chainring or cog for skids and tricks
    • CommentAuthorryanw
    • CommentTimeApr 9th 2009
     
    Keep the chainring and use a 17 tooth cog.
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    be a man 49-15 lol
    • CommentAuthorSpency
    • CommentTimeApr 16th 2009
     
    lol
    • CommentAuthorSpency
    • CommentTimeApr 16th 2009
     
    i went for a 46-19
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    I don't know how you guys get anywhere very fast on those little gears! You can skid a bigger ratio, you just have to get yourself farther over the bars. I think I could power brake a 46:16 at a stop light sitting in the saddle while picking my nose.
    • CommentAuthorewurl
    • CommentTimeApr 18th 2009
     
    how does the 46-19 feel? A relief im sure.
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    Im at a 48/17 and skidding has gotten incredibly easy. Its about experience, not your gearing, because when I first got this gearing, skidding seemed immpossible, just practice and you can skid on anything, but for tricks and skids, lower is easier.
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    I just got a 48 19 on and it's way easier, I'm still not skidding, nor trying really, but I'd imagine it'd be vastly easier. It's a good ratio for riding bike trails with my out of shape female friend...

    We averaged 10.2 mph today... so proud. I'll get her up to 25 by summers end. Or it's over.
    • CommentAuthorbenz
    • CommentTimeApr 19th 2009
     
    you can easily get a wheelie going with say... 46/15... with practice you can skid and trick on most any setup. naturally....lower is indeed easier to learn on. pick up a cheap used cog thats got enough teeth to really play around on.
    • CommentAuthormuckymucky
    • CommentTimeApr 19th 2009
     
    i say your tire has to be worn down a little from skipping before skids can become easier (new rubber = more friction?)
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    Where did you come up with that little tid bit Mucky? It is the opposite. Tires grip better after a break in period.
    • CommentAuthormuckymucky
    • CommentTimeApr 19th 2009 edited
     
    i just imagine because a brand new tire, all the molecules are aligned perpendicular to the radius of the wheel, and as you ride, those molecules get scuffed away until they're angled at such a way that it would be more tangential to the radius instead of perpendicular~ and if you were to account for the friction of a radially tangential surface as opposed to a radially perpendicular surface, it would be less friction in the radially tangential case, thus easier to resist because of the reduction in friction. (simular to the process of "tire balding" = no traction no?)

    ok your turn: so why do tires grip better after the break in period?
    • CommentAuthorthe rabbi
    • CommentTimeApr 20th 2009
     
    the rubber becomes softer
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    Because the radial perpendicular alignment reacts with the hershidemeferger molecular compound of the 3:16 variation every 4th revolution of top pedal stroke in left turns on the 1st Thursday of every other month- but only in a leap year and vests don't have sleeves.

    There argue with that Einstein.
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    HAHAHA I WAS ACTUALLY READIN THAT SERIOUSLY UNTIL THE THURSDAY PART...GOOD SHIT
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    Its just kinda silly. I think most car tire manufactures even say to use caution at first-

    Tires become porous as they wear in. making them softer as the great Rabbi commented.
    • CommentAuthorbenz
    • CommentTimeApr 21st 2009
     
    yep. i just bought a new rear tire for my motorcycle. warning labels all over it saying they are extremely slippery for the first 100 miles until properly broken in.
    • CommentAuthormuckymucky
    • CommentTimeApr 22nd 2009 edited
     
    wait so what comes after the explanation of the latent, softer rubber? softer rubber has higher coefficient of friction ?
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    vests don't have sleeves.
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    Umm yo the bike im getting is 47/16 does that blow for tricks like wheelies and going backwards?
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    serioulsy tho is that good for tricks or bad?
    • CommentAuthorcloud
    • CommentTimeJul 31st 2009
     
    it blows if you blow at doing wheelies and going backwards.
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    ok well im just not strong but i can do those. so i take it, its not bad?
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    can someone seriously answear my question and tell me if 47/16 is a good ratio for doing wheelies and going backwards? or is it a setup for going fast?
    • CommentAuthorthe rabbi
    • CommentTimeJul 31st 2009
     
    jesus christ kid; you are impatient. go over to tricktrack.com and ask. if people aren't answering, it's because they probably don't do tricks.
    at 14, i think it will be hard for you. there.
    /bombarding of questions.
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    if you promise to be nice i can tell you a good gear for beginners and tricks but tell me first then i will help
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    Posted By: carbon fiber15if you promise to be nice i can tell you a good gear for beginners and tricks but tell me first then i will help


    umm ok? lol i will be nice. all i want to know is if thts a good ratio for tricks
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    43-16
    • CommentAuthorSkidMark
    • CommentTimeJul 31st 2009
     
    48 x 19. A lower gear will help to to be able to accelerate off the line better, is easier to pull up for wheelies, and skids really easy. having a cog in back that is a prime number gives you more skid patches (19).
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    ok but is 47 16 good?
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    for a strong rider maby, you no
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    ok so is that more of a racing setup or? what would you recommend to make it easier? i only wanna change the back cog if anything. Also the other bike im looking at is 48/16 would that be any better or worse?

    basically whats better? 48/16 or 47/16? for doing tricks that is, like wheelies and stuff

    thanks
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    it a commuter gear and the 48 or 47? i think you can answer that with a little bit of thinking. if not here is a hint, the lower the gears cog or chainring the less effort required to peddle
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    ok thanks carbon fiber, 47 it is broskeet. thanks a bunch i owe ya one
    • CommentAuthorwes m.
    • CommentTimeJul 31st 2009 edited
     
    Ok, after reading this thread I need to kill myself or vent so for the sake of self preservation...

    edit: nevermind. ill work out my frustration on the rollers.
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    jeez...
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    Posted By: wes m.Ok, after reading this thread I need to kill myself or vent so for the sake of self preservation...

    edit: nevermind. ill work out my frustration on the rollers.


    hahaha brawlic

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