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    • CommentAuthorIkkinyo
    • CommentTimeMar 10th 2009
     
    I'm looking into a new stem to buy because I plan on replacing my drops with a pair of soma risers and i was wondering if i could get your opinion on what stem is best for bar spinning. I was thinkin the Nitto Jaguar since its pretty pushed in? Idk, can I just get some suggestions?
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    the jag would bang against your tt. ideally you want the shortest flattest stem you can find
    • CommentAuthortstadum
    • CommentTimeMar 10th 2009
     
    Is your kilo threadless or not cause the jag wont work if you have the new threadless kilo's.....
    • CommentAuthorscruggle
    • CommentTimeMar 10th 2009
     
    Posted By: alexisfasterthe jag would bang against your tt. ideally you want the shortest flattest stem you can find


    Why would you want a flat stem? That would smash into the toptube unless you had a ton of spacers underneath. Stems don't rotate parallel to the ground - the headtube is at an angle. To do bar spins you'd probably need a riser stem.

    To repeat, if you have a stem that is parallel to the ground in the normal position, when you spin it halfway around it will be pointing down towards the ground.
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    Posted By: scruggle
    Posted By: alexisfasterthe jag would bang against your tt. ideally you want the shortest flattest stem you can find


    Why would you want a flat stem? That would smash into the toptube unless you had a ton of spacers underneath. Stems don't rotate parallel to the ground - the headtube is at an angle. To do bar spins you'd probably need a riser stem.

    To repeat, if you have a stem that is parallel to the ground in the normal position, when you spin it halfway around it will be pointing down towards the ground.


    coming from experiance, most flat stems barspin.
    • CommentAuthorscruggle
    • CommentTimeMar 10th 2009
     
    Posted By: patrickviolence

    coming from experiance, most flat stems barspin.


    Yeah, but it's not because the stem is flat, it's cause the headset stack height, headtube extension over the toptube, or spacers gave you enough clearance.

    Watch this video http://vimeo.com/2781965

    You can see that even with a steep little riser the handlebars come close to the toptube. A flat stem would be even closer or would hit. Thus, the advice to get the 'flattest stem you can find' is not the best advice because a riser stem will always give more clearance and a flat stem might not, despite your experience.
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    fuck it just get this
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    yeah fuckin bmx stem or mtb stem
    • CommentAuthorIkkinyo
    • CommentTimeMar 11th 2009
     
    http://velospace.org/node/6679

    that bike looks like it can bar spin...does the rotation change twords the top tube? it looks like it can clear to me...
    • CommentAuthorscruggle
    • CommentTimeMar 11th 2009
     
    Look at this picture, it might help you visualize things. It can look like there's tons of clearance, but there isn't.

    http://tinyurl.com/boya9r

    A long flat handlebar makes things worse too. In that bike you posted I doubt it would clear as it swings around. It might, but in any case it'd be awfully close.
    • CommentAuthorIkkinyo
    • CommentTimeMar 11th 2009
     
    so is it just not a good idea to have Nitto stems for bar spinning? i was hopping to be able to purchase one for it...take a look at this last pic, cus it sure looks like it'll clear

    http://velospace.org/node/18290
    • CommentAuthorthe rabbi
    • CommentTimeMar 12th 2009
     
    are you even sure your bike can barspin? does your front wheel clear the frame? and is your mercier quill or threadless? give us that info and we can let you know what you need to get you tricks on.

    or you can just buy a bmx bike.
    • CommentAuthorIkkinyo
    • CommentTimeMar 12th 2009
     
    ummm it comes threadless, wat exactly does that mean?

    sry, im just like hella new, not quite sure on all the terminology.

    meh, forget the bmx stuff, people act like those who want to use fixed gear for tricks have never hear of a bmx before.

    to me fixed is good for transportation and adding the ability to do tricks makes it more fun...besides bmxing is hella dying where i am...
    • CommentAuthorthe rabbi
    • CommentTimeMar 13th 2009
     
    if you want to do tricks, you need to use shit that works for tricks. you can use a $50 bmx stem or a $100 mountain stem, your choice. you can't use a nitto jag on threadless. the fork has no threads and the stem clamps directly onto the exposed fork. threaded stems have a quill (post) that slides into the fork.

    and because fixed gear is the new popular thing and bmx isn't anymore, you can't be caught dead riding one, right?
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    on this topic- I have a fixie in the works -bar spins ..... with a front brake!!!!! for a bike with a quill stem, a bmx job is the best way to go.
    • CommentAuthorthe rabbi
    • CommentTimeMar 13th 2009 edited
     
    front fork routing + 990 brkae set-up?

    and for threaded, why would bmx be the best set up? you mean threadless?
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    I am using a piece of crap sidepull, that has a reversed cable stop- they used them on certian mixties.
    yes on the cable route- thru hollow stem bolt

    I dont even know about new threadless stuff. I like to use old quill bmx stems on my "bar spin bikes" they clear nice, without having to raise the stem up.
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    oh, and I am using a grip shift for the brake lever on this guy too. They work great.
    • CommentAuthorthe rabbi
    • CommentTimeMar 13th 2009
     
    that's kinda risky. hmmm.
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    no way man. tried and true. grip shift levers work great. I have used them alot. they are great for trials bikes too, as they allow you to keep all the digits on your bars. Brake cables are compatible too.
    very strong stopping power as well.
    • CommentAuthorIkkinyo
    • CommentTimeMar 14th 2009 edited
     
    Posted By: the rabbiif you want to do tricks, you need to use shit that works for tricks. you can use a $50 bmx stem or a $100 mountain stem, your choice. you can't use a nitto jag on threadless. the fork has no threads and the stem clamps directly onto the exposed fork. threaded stems have a quill (post) that slides into the fork.

    and because fixed gear is the new popular thing and bmx isn't anymore, you can't be caught dead riding one, right?



    yeah i figured out all the stuff yesterday when my bike came...soi guess i'll just have to purchase a dif size wheel and transfer my bmx stem to it...

    and fixed gear isnt that popular either...whats wrong with accepting the fact that there are people who like to take track bike riding to a dif level, if putting a snotty comment at the end of every somewhat helping post is ur thing then ur help isn't really appreciated because i know how HARD it is to deal with people who arent at ur level of smarts nd i dont wanna make this to hard for you....

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