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  1.  
    Start saving your pennies kids! This one is not gonna be cheap!

    Almost every single Laser I've seen, both in person and online, has been slightly different. Different bottom bracket area, different slope to the top tube, different forks, etc. Who knows what style the re-issue is going to be!

    From the Press Release:

    ‘Today thanks to the rebirth of steel and people like yourselves, a dream is about to be realised: the Cinelli Laser will return. Not just as a museum display, but as a track machine; rigid and lively, more so even than its predecessor 20 years ago. All the original protagonists are ready and motivated; Andrea Pesenti who built 300 throughout the 1980’s, myself Antonio Colombo who thought them up, Paolo Erzegovesi who engineered them, and Emilvano Montorio who pulled out the tubes. New in the band will be Alessandra Cusatelli, my partner, and Cinelli design co-ordinator of the last 10 years. As always, it will only be available in limited editions. The kids are alright!”

    Cinelli's global distributor meeting is taking place all this week - more details to come.




    • CommentAuthorparkman14
    • CommentTimeJun 29th 2010
     
    Holy shit! Are they gonne have the non-pursuit style one available? When will it be released?
    • CommentAuthordeermatt
    • CommentTimeJun 29th 2010
     
    I really really hope they dont mess this up. If its close to the original , I really want one !
  2.  
    Cinelli might consider taking a cue from their past designs and tone down their ridiculous branding. Look at the logo on the Laser and how it actually fits on the downtube! Incredible!
  3.  
    Posted By: terrible_one49Almost every single Laser I've seen, both in person and online, has been slightly different. Different bottom bracket area, different slope to the top tube, different forks, etc. Who knows what style the re-issue is going to be!



    I hope it's this one:

  4.  
    My guess is they will probably make it as close to the non-pursuit style as possible, most like the one the guy in the group picture in the middle/back is holding up.

    Making a seriously pursuit style frame is out-dated and not practical today.

    I hope they do something cool with the bottom bracket area, like the second or third picture down.
  5.  
    Ugh. Stupid formatting.
  6.  
    Hahahaha, yeah… I'm almost 100% certain it will be THAT exact one, for sure. No doubt about it!

    My guess is… this will be the most expensive track frame that Cinelli has made yet. Probably in the price range of those Colnago's with the crazy paint jobs that came out a couple years ago.
    • CommentAuthorquidose
    • CommentTimeJun 29th 2010
     
    Posted By: deermattI really really hope they dont mess this up.


    Posted By: Michael PerzCinelli might consider taking a cue from their past designs and tone down their ridiculous branding. Look at the logo on the Laser and how itactually fitson the downtube! Incredible!


    These are noble thoughts, but I wouldn't hold my breath.
  7.  
    TO, I hope you realize I posted that with tongue firmly in cheek. The thought of that one being reproduced gave me a horrible vision of a bunch of them running around with BMX pedals and chopped risers. Yuck.
  8.  
    the picture that perz posted has a big ass mother fucking sprocket, must have like 3 tooth in back
  9.  
    Thats looks PRETTY HAWT! YES PLEASE haha! Wow, and so Much CUSSING wow! yikes
    • CommentAuthordanzap209
    • CommentTimeJun 29th 2010
     
    Guestimate on price?
  10.  
    Posted By: TRICKonmyTRACKthe picture that perz posted has a big ass mother fucking sprocket, must have like 3 tooth in back


    The chainring on that Cinelli is a 55t. It's the same size chainring I ride on my Cervelo track.

    The larger the front chainring, the larger the cog. You seem to be thinking the other way around. Putting on a larger chainring does the same thing as putting on a SMALLER cog.
  11.  
    Posted By: danzap209Guestimate on price?


    Figuring the Cinelli SuperCorsa is close to 2,000 bucks, and the Laser is going to take A LOT more refinement, grinding, shaping, etc of the metal… my guess is it will be slightly more. Not to mention these frames sell between 3,000-8,000 used on Ebay.
    • CommentAuthorkirke
    • CommentTimeJun 29th 2010
     
    I wonder: threaded or threadless fork?
  12.  
    I just want to post this picture again because it's so beautiful.

  13.  
    Posted By: Joshua A.C. Newman
    • CommentAuthorquidose
    • CommentTimeJun 30th 2010
     
    • CommentAuthoralbieish
    • CommentTimeJun 30th 2010
     
    The first person that gets a picture of a reissue Laser with riser bars wins.
    • CommentAuthorkirke
    • CommentTimeJun 30th 2010
     
    It will be sad to see those frames with chopped risers and BMX pedals, but honestly who else will be interested in these besides fixed-gear kids?

    Collectors will want the original, and those serious about track racing probably want new aluminum or carbon frames.

    Cinelli is definitely marketing these reissue Lasers to the fixed gear "community" so I would prepare yrselves for some god-awful builds.
  14.  
    Kind of want.

    But I have about as much use for another track frame as nothing at all.
  15.  
    I think the price will set these above the fixie kids budgets. You won't see any with risers, I bet. You really don't see any of the Super Corsa frames on the street or with risers. There are still PLENTY of people riding track that ride steel, and having a good steel frame can be better than aluminum or carbon on the track, where weight is not that important.

    I'm thinking we will see a lot of very classy, NOS vintage builds, with tons of Campy Pista and Cinelli parts. I guess what would totally throw off this guess would be if they decide to put a 1 1/8 threadless headtube on it.
    • CommentAuthorstalag13
    • CommentTimeJul 1st 2010
     
    Posted By: quidose


    hahaha, what's up withe GI Joe articulated stem on this one?
  16.  
    just some idiot trying to destroy a classic
  17.  
    seeems very sweet. Definitely should be ridden on the track! I will hate to see it with risers and bmx pedals as well.
    • CommentAuthorslobscene
    • CommentTimeAug 14th 2010
     
    i wish arkansas had a velo.
    • CommentAuthorheadphone
    • CommentTimeAug 14th 2010
     
    Posted By: FixedGearFixjust some idiot trying to destroy a classic


    that's a vintage look ergostem.
  18.  
    Posted By: headphone
    Posted By: FixedGearFixjust some idiot trying to destroy a classic


    that's a vintage look ergostem.


    also adjustable and usualy adjusted down like a normal stem
    • CommentAuthorncecchi
    • CommentTimeAug 24th 2010
     
    track + steel = win/ boner.

    I hope this isn't too expensive, i'd really like to be rolling on this at my local track as I've moved up two categories this season.

    Terrible_One - why the huge chainring? I try to run as small as possible with small rear cog to minimize rotational inertia. Same concept as the DA ten-pitch groupo.
    a 48x12/13 gives about the same ratio as 55x15/16 so why add the extra mass especially where it counts?
    And I even find the 48x13 hard to push sometimes and often flip my wheel to the 15t, what the hell size cog are you running, like an 18?
  19.  
    http://superbbicycle.com/



    Posted By:superb

    Out at interbike I got to talk to some of the great guys at cinelli about the upcoming Laser reissue. All the final details are still waiting to be ironed out but it sounds like it will be a more traditional geometry track frame, with dual 700c wheels and a slightly forward sloping top tube. They will mainly be made to order and are only planning to start with 10 frames. Price, as you can imagine, will be quite high, so start saving your pennies and if you must have one talk to us soon so we can have one pre-ordered for you.
    • CommentAuthordeermatt
    • CommentTimeSep 27th 2010
     
    Posted By: ncecchitrack + steel = win/ boner.

    I hope this isn't too expensive, i'd really like to be rolling on this at my local track as I've moved up two categories this season.

    Terrible_One - why the huge chainring? I try to run as small as possible with small rear cog to minimize rotational inertia. Same concept as the DA ten-pitch groupo.
    a 48x12/13 gives about the same ratio as 55x15/16 so why add the extra mass especially where it counts?
    And I even find the 48x13 hard to push sometimes and often flip my wheel to the 15t, what the hell size cog are you running, like an 18?


    bigger gears run smoother . The smaller the cog, the more binding and friction you will have. Pretty simple.
  20.  
    Posted By: deermatt
    Posted By: ncecchitrack + steel = win/ boner.

    I hope this isn't too expensive, i'd really like to be rolling on this at my local track as I've moved up two categories this season.

    Terrible_One - why the huge chainring? I try to run as small as possible with small rear cog to minimize rotational inertia. Same concept as the DA ten-pitch groupo.
    a 48x12/13 gives about the same ratio as 55x15/16 so why add the extra mass especially where it counts?
    And I even find the 48x13 hard to push sometimes and often flip my wheel to the 15t, what the hell size cog are you running, like an 18?


    bigger gears run smoother . The smaller the cog, the more binding and friction you will have. Pretty simple.


    Exactly. The chain is having to take less of a bend, and is engaging more teeth. Larger chainrings run with more consistent chain tension, with no loose/tight spots. It also makes you spin a more smooth and consistent pedal stroke.

    I've done tests, changing back and forth between the same gear ratio, I think it was 49/15 and 55/17, and when pedaling on a power meter that measures the power used in ALL parts of the pedal stroke, the larger chainrings were much more efficient.

    This is really only useful on the track, where it matters. On the street, I would ride something small.

    The weight difference is no difference if you change from running a steel cog to an alloy cog. The weight of the larger chainring and extra link of chain still is not heavier than the difference between a steel and alloy cog. I would only suggest running alloy cogs on the track however (although I'm currently testing out the new EAI ALLOY cogs on my street bike, and so far… I love them)

    Not to mention, bigger chainrings make you look more intimidating and tough. Small chainrings make you look wimpy.
  21.  
    Posted By: ncecchiI hope this isn't too expensive, i'd really like to be rolling on this at my local track as I've moved up two categories this season.


    There is NO WAY IN HELL this frame is going to be even remotely cheap. It's probably going to be the most expensive track frame that Cinelli makes. Their new Gazzetta frames are around 600 for a low-end 4130 frame. Surely this Laser will be more than their Super Corsa which is around 2000.00 bucks.
  22.  
    http://sfgfc.wordpress.com/

    This – is – sick.

    Cinelli Laser prototype at Eurobike 2011.
    • CommentAuthorjdiamond
    • CommentTimeOct 7th 2010 edited
     
    Posted By: terrible_one49
    Posted By: ncecchiI hope this isn't too expensive, i'd really like to be rolling on this at my local track as I've moved up two categories this season.


    There is NO WAY IN HELL this frame is going to be even remotely cheap. It's probably going to be the most expensive track frame that Cinelli makes. Their new Gazzetta frames are around 600 for a low-end 4130 frame. Surely this Laser will be more than their Super Corsa which is around 2000.00 bucks.


    +1
    we all know how much cinelli charges for their steel frames, now times that by like two. i highly doubt they are going to mass produce the laser, just build a couple hundred like they did 20 years ago and be done with it. and i firmly believe for the amount of money they are charging someone would just get a wayyy better frame (unless you just love the laser or nos stuff for that matter). personally i would rather buy a fillet brazed yamaguchi aero track!! and hell even save some money and it would be built wayy better and completely custom to your fitting, not a 54 or 56 etc. (in my opinion) cinelli have just become about looks and status in the last couple of years, yeah some of their stuff looks great! and is made with columbus but you can always get a better frame than a cinelli for the prices they have been asking
    and i wouldnt doubt it if they start building 700cmx frames by 2012
    • CommentAuthoramphibole
    • CommentTimeOct 7th 2010
     
    1. the silver bluey frame is a deal
    2. 'das cinelli-team' = what a bunch of lads
  23.  
    http://trackosaurusrex.com/pblog/index.php?entry=entry110901-120350

    Photo of the new 2011 Cinelli Laser from Eurobike.
 



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