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- CommentAuthorCrailslider
- CommentTimeFeb 4th 2009
opinons? -
- CommentAuthorwowzah
- CommentTimeFeb 4th 2009 edited
a professional spray is always the best
but it depends on what you are painting:
if it's just some beater bike, a rattle can spray paint job should work for 5 bucks
if it's just some average bike a industrial powder coating is fine
if you are trying to make a high end bike look classy take it to a professional bike painter who knows how to handle a bike frame
i have done all 3, rattle can, powder coating, and proffesional, choose the one that is right for the bike -
- CommentAuthorCrailslider
- CommentTimeFeb 4th 2009
I want a professional job I want a black gloss with rainbow sparkles in the paint. what do you think the average cost would be -
- CommentAuthorwowzah
- CommentTimeFeb 4th 2009 edited
around $300
Joe Bell in San Diego is one of the best
that paint job sounds interesting, i'm not sure if it would cost more -
- CommentAuthorCrailslider
- CommentTimeFeb 4th 2009
yeah i live in the san francisco bay area so im gonna start gathering #'s i guess -
- CommentAuthorwowzah
- CommentTimeFeb 4th 2009
Rivendell in Walnut Creek sends their frames to Joe Bell in San Diego to get painted
however i'm sure you can find a top notch painter in the bay area if you don't want to ship it -
- CommentAuthorCrailslider
- CommentTimeFeb 4th 2009
yeah that might be a bitch of a process and it might take longer. -
- CommentAuthorwowzah
- CommentTimeFeb 4th 2009
a top notch painter in demand is going to take some time either way -
- CommentAuthorterrible_one49
- CommentTimeFeb 4th 2009
What is the frame you are painting? If it's a low-end cheap frame, don't even bother. If it's a nice frame...get a nice paint job. -
- CommentAuthoreffin siggy
- CommentTimeFeb 4th 2009
america's finest discount spraypaint in highlighter yellow. awesome. so awesome. -
- CommentAuthorCrailslider
- CommentTimeFeb 5th 2009
Im ridin a new fuji blank frame I just want this black with rainbow sparkles in it -
- CommentAuthoreffin siggy
- CommentTimeFeb 5th 2009
Poster paint and stickers. -
- CommentAuthorfastfixie
- CommentTimeFeb 5th 2009
DIY. You can lay a base gloss black down and use sprinkles from the craft store. Sprinkle while the paint is still wet. Clear coat over that. Go light with the sprinkles. -
- CommentAuthordeermatt
- CommentTimeFeb 5th 2009
dont paint, get it powdercoated. Paint chips , powdercoating is much more durable, and wont ever come off. -
- CommentAuthorwowzah
- CommentTimeFeb 5th 2009 edited
it really depends on the bike
i'm not taking a very nice bike frame that i care about to a powder coater who mass produces road signs
quality paint, sprayed by a top frame painter last
i would make the decision based on the bike, there are plenty of applications were a $5 rattle can job is going to make the most sense
if you are just painting some mass produced bike from a china I would take it to a powder coater
something more special is best left to a professional frame painter, who will treat the frame like you treat it -
- CommentAuthordeermatt
- CommentTimeFeb 5th 2009
I took my basically irreplacable njs track bike to the powdercoaters, where they plugged every hole,and bead blasted the old paint off that was chipped up, and put an amazing powdercoat on my frame. Im the other way around.. If it was a cheap frame, I would take it to a painter, like earl sheib and get the cheapest coat sprayed on, or you could do a real decent job yourself with rattle cans. A good powdercoat will look great, and will be indestructable . I paid almost 200 for my powdercoat job. -
- CommentAuthorwowzah
- CommentTimeFeb 5th 2009 edited
deermatt, if you took it to a pro, your jaw would drop just from the frames waiting in queue hanging on the wall to be painted, worth a hondo right there
what did your powder coater paint after your frame? an industrial furnace? a yard fence?
i'm talking about a frame painting shop that does 100% business painting bike frames, you really think the powder coater does a better job?
these shops paint frames for frame builders, it's the real deal -
- CommentAuthorHyde
- CommentTimeFeb 5th 2009
I wouldn't do powdercoat. Paint is the best for a loved frame. I had a frame blasted & powdercoated. The powdercoating came out orange pealy in some areas. The bike was flat black so it didn't really show but had it been gloss it would have riuned the bike. Paint is the way to go. That is why all new retail bikes are painted. -
- CommentAuthordeermatt
- CommentTimeFeb 5th 2009
Well you went to a bad powder coater. A good powdercoat should never orange peel, and will be 100x more durable than regular paint. Retail bikes are painted because its much cheaper and quicker to paint than powdercoat. -
- CommentAuthoraliderkrasse
- CommentTimeFeb 6th 2009
Posted By: deermattRetail bikes are painted because its much cheaper and quicker to paint than powdercoat.
that is actually incorrect most retail bikes after 1995 or so are powder coated with cheap industrial; powder coat.
but to get back on topic. I reside in the bay area and I do professional powdercoating, enamel and urethane-lacquer paintjobs with custom decaling options. My prices are competitive if you want to see some of my work check out my profile. -
- CommentAuthorwowzah
- CommentTimeFeb 6th 2009 edited
deermatt is way off base, but that's not to say that powder coating is bad
i've had frames powder coated, it's a somewhat cheaper alternative and works well
a frame builder will send their frames to one of the top painters, or have professional staff on hand to paint their frames
the stuff from china is powder coated, that is to say virtually ever mass produced bike these days
most powder coaters will accept bike frames as an extra source of income, but their business is painting industrial material like road signs -
- CommentAuthoreffin siggy
- CommentTimeFeb 7th 2009
sharpie and magic markers. -
- CommentAuthorcreejoh
- CommentTimeFeb 7th 2009
How about chroming? What if I wanted my stays and lugs chromed only, what would be the best way to go for that? I heard they can powdercoat chrome on your bike instead of plating.... Not sure how good of an idea it is though. -
- CommentAuthorbuckydcxvi
- CommentTimeFeb 7th 2009
deermatt is a retard he thinks he knows everything. -
- CommentAuthoralexisfaster
- CommentTimeFeb 7th 2009
chrome is applied by through a process similar to electroplating not powder coating. in powder coating your fame would be negatively charged and then sprayed with the positively charged powder then put in a kiln, in chrome plating your bike would be put into an electrolyte bath (like acid) with a block of chromium, then an electric current is run throught it which strips atoms of chromium off the piece of chromium and places them onto the frame. if you go to caswellplating.com you can buy a chrome plating kit for 80 dollars and up. -
- CommentAuthorwowzah
- CommentTimeFeb 8th 2009 edited
chrome plating is very expensive to do professionally (i've heard painters quote $200-$300 just for one chromed lug)
the process is also considered to be bad for the environment if you care about things like that
alexisfaster do you have any examples in using the chrome plating kit, i would be interested -
- CommentAuthorzerocool33
- CommentTimeFeb 8th 2009 edited
I think painting looks a lot better with way more options. I think powder coating is more durable, but also is limited to a more urban/utilitarian look. Not that there is anything wrong with that either. I really like both looks, but both have their own place and should not really be compared. I guess when it comes down to it I feel it's really apples and oranges. -
- CommentAuthormat
- CommentTimeFeb 8th 2009
While it's not as good as powdercoat, you can use 1-Shot sign painters paint for a really good durable finish costing around $30. You just sand the frame and brush this stuff on. It's thick so it flows really well with no brush marks left over. I recommend hanging the frame in the air so you can paint the whole frame at once, it dries quickly and gets sticky. I painted this bike with 1-Shot. -
- CommentAuthorcoryjarman
- CommentTimeFeb 10th 2009
i just got a pista powdered gloss black with subtle metallic sparklies. 75 bucks including the sandblast and prep. the metallic look usually runs expensive due to the second coating. i got my guy in phx who does a great job. -
- CommentAuthorewurl
- CommentTimeFeb 20th 2009
Chrome fx DIY http://www.alsacorp.com/products/chromefx/chromefx_prodinfo.htm expensive though -
- CommentAuthoralfro12
- CommentTimeFeb 21st 2009
I got mine professionally powdercoated for $60 at a shop called Embee http://www.embeeperformance.com/processes/p_coating.html -
- CommentAuthorpowder coat guy
- CommentTimeFeb 21st 2009
As a powdercoater myself and a life long biker i have to agree with deermatt powder coating is the best way to go
a quality coater should be able to give you a finish that is beautiful and durable -
- CommentAuthoraliderkrasse
- CommentTimeMar 4th 2009 edited
Posted By: creejohHow about chroming? What if I wanted my stays and lugs chromed only, what would be the best way to go for that? I heard they can powdercoat chrome on your bike instead of plating.... Not sure how good of an idea it is though.
that powdercoated chroming process has only been around for a few years. I only heard good things about it. mostly from bikerz (fat dudes on motorcycles)
There are three or four different ways/processes of chrome plating. The only good quote I ever got was $150 for a hot dip. It's kinda like galvanizing but it gets dipped into copper first and then into chrome to produce a stronger bond. -
- CommentAuthorMANNY E
- CommentTimeMay 22nd 2009
Keep your frame looking crappy helps keep away bike thieves. (as long as they dont recognize sweet components) -
- CommentAuthorLyKqiD
- CommentTimeMay 22nd 2009
Honestly... Chroming is one of the most expensive finishes and there are few people that have experience chroming a bike. At that end why doesnt he just anodize his bike. -
- CommentAuthorjstar1000
- CommentTimeJun 8th 2009
I have a Bridgestone 400 I took to a powder coating shop that does mostly motorcycle frames and hot rod car parts but they also do a lot of bike frames and they did a wonderful job. Not one person I have showed the bike to can tell its been powder coated the lugs look clean and sharp. Its awesome and I wouldn't do it any other way. I accidentally hit the frame real hard with a piece of metal and it didn't chip I was very impressed. Do what you want but for my money PC is the only way to go. I paid $130 for frame and fork. -
- CommentAuthorLoneWolf15
- CommentTimeJun 8th 2009
http://www.semcustompaint.com
Dave Sem out of San Antonio, TX is one of the best; he can do literally anything. My main ride (listed in my profile) was painted by him. He airbrushes on the logos; no decals to peel off. If you have a ride you want to make unique, he's your man. -
- CommentAuthorj-dogg
- CommentTimeJun 8th 2009
I went with powdercoat on my 84' Ciocc because I ride it. It holds up to wear and scratches better than paint, and scratches buff out easier with PC.
it all boils down to what you're going to do with it.
dust collector or show piece? paint.
if you actually plan on riding it and enjoying it for what it is made for, powdercoat for sure. -
- CommentAuthorJoshua A.C. Newman
- CommentTimeJun 9th 2009
Check out my Jet Jaguar (RIP) to see a really nice powdercoat job. They usually cost about $100. -
- CommentAuthorwes m.
- CommentTimeJun 9th 2009 edited
I've got a sketchy powdercoat on one of my frames. Its too thick around the lugs which makes the good lug work look not so good. This frame has also been leaned against and knocked with countless things without chipping. Paint isnt an option for me. It will only look better than powdercoat until you scratch it. Finding a good powdercoater seems like the best compromise for bikes that get ridden. -
- CommentAuthorRuffinit
- CommentTimeJun 9th 2009
If you'd like to get it powdercoated you should look at the frames on Sanner's site. The only option that he gives for coating the frame is powder. Changed my whole outlook on PC. He's a framebuilder that doesn't even offer paint. His lugs look very good and he's out of SanFran. Again, you are going to have to find a PC'er that'll do that kind of work. (http://www.sannercycles.com/)
I would challenge you that my bike has more miles on it than any of your frames will ever have in a lifetime. It's PAINTED. Factory paint. Sure, it has a scratch here or there, but not that you'll pick out from 5 feet away. So J-Dogg, that blows your theory out of the water. Then again it's only 23 years old with 50,000+ miles on it.. I'm going to be getting it repainted in the near future, but it'll cost much more than powdercoating. (velospace.org/node/20603) -
- CommentAuthorgelpicorp
- CommentTimeJun 9th 2009 edited
i just got an old steel schwinn back from the powdercoater this past weekend. after reading some of the posts here i began to get nervous. however, i am absolutely pleased. the finish is as glossy as you might want, and there is even a clear coat on top of it. looks wet, like a car, if that's ur thing.
it is completely smooth, not an orange peel in sight and the coater was even trying to point things out to me. he made sure that i knew that it might happen. he was even pleased that he couldn't find anything.
i think this is consistent with others above. it is COMPLETELY dependent on your coater on how well a PC job comes out. my guy was the most experienced guy in the shop and had previous bike experience. (they did batches for a local framebuilder).
the coating is uniform aroudn the lugs and there is no gunky build up visible to mine eye. only thing is i forgot to have the serial number masked from color and only clear coated, but that might have looked funny any way.
frame and fork w/stock powder = 65
frame and fork w/opt clearcoat = 30
total w/tax ....................... 103
so, even though the powder shop might have finished powdering your mom's patio furniture, if you get a person who knows what they are doing you can get a beautiful bike too!
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