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- CommentAuthorToaster_Cake
- CommentTimeDec 29th 2008
Hey, I was wondering if any of you have reviews on the Affinity frameset. I am thinking about getting one and would like to know how they would be for a daily commuter. Thanks -
- CommentAuthorK3NNY
- CommentTimeDec 30th 2008
I like there Kissena Track frame. I wanted to buy one but, I opted for a Leader frame. I think I read that the Kissena was a good frame so I guess you could assume there other frames are good. But that might not be a good idea. I hope you find out something though. -
- CommentAuthorJohn Tom
- CommentTimeJan 2nd 2009
My friend has a low pro and he really likes it, for the price it seems to be a really fast solid frame. Although they aren't as light as they could be. They look real sweet, especially if you get the eggshell white paint and threaded fork. Right now I guess they are on sale for 500 including a head set and bottom bracket. Solid deal. From what I understand it's the most responsive bike he's ever ridden. -
- CommentAuthorJohn Tom
- CommentTimeJan 2nd 2009
oops those are huge. -
- CommentAuthorK3NNY
- CommentTimeJan 3rd 2009
Haha yea those pics are massive -
- CommentAuthorToaster_Cake
- CommentTimeJan 5th 2009
thanks for the info! stupid question ,but does he trick on it? I was thinking of doing tricks, but like just wheelies and stuff... -
- CommentAuthorJohn Tom
- CommentTimeJan 7th 2009
it's definitely harder to do wheelies on them, but people definitely do. -
- CommentAuthorianmichael
- CommentTimeJan 7th 2009
you dont realize how far down your bars are on pursuit bikes until you ride one, toaster.
i went by the shop the other day and took one for a test ride. they are pretty stiff and very responsive, nice geometry. my only complaint is they charge you extra to thread the steerer cause they come from the factory unthreaded. but that is a personal thing because i dont care for 1'' threadless. they are 500 bucks in the first place, the least you could do is thread it for free. -
- CommentAuthorcrothjackson
- CommentTimeJun 17th 2009
i have a lo pro with riser bars and i find it fairly easy to wheelie, and very comfortable to ride. i've raced it one the track with drops, and the stance is aggressive, but on the street with risers is the way to go...From 2009.05.06_NEV_OpeningNight -
- CommentAuthorLyKqiD
- CommentTimeJun 17th 2009
1" threadless always made no sense to me. A friend searched around for awhile at the lbs' around the city and found none. Of course ebay remedied that situation. -
- CommentAuthoreaglerock
- CommentTimeJun 17th 2009
How are you supposed to use one of those cool Cinelli Alter stems if you don't have 1" threadless? -
- CommentAuthorcloud
- CommentTimeJun 17th 2009 edited
mine has a shim to beef it up to 1 1/8 and it works fine. i daily commute on it and do about 180 miles a week including group rides. i still like it a lot. it could be lighter but it's fast stiff, responsive and i love the agressive geo without crazy toe-verlap. i couldn't tell you about tricking though other than the frame is strong enough for any demand, i bought an extra set of risers for it and still have never slapped em on the replace my nitto rb021 bullhorns. i will tell you every once in awhile, near the end of a 80-90 mile day or one solid 40-50 mile ride i have lower back pain from being dropped into the bulls too long. i'm building up a road bike here shortly to use for the long hilly stuff where this bike doesn't belong anyway.
also if you get one and build it up nice and clean, expect tons of compliments. -
- CommentAuthoroctopus magic
- CommentTimeJun 18th 2009 edited
Posted By: ianmichaelyou dont realize how far down your bars are on pursuit bikes until you ride one, toaster.
i went by the shop the other day and took one for a test ride. they are pretty stiff and very responsive, nice geometry. my only complaint is they charge you extra to thread the steerer cause they come from the factory unthreaded. but that is a personal thing because i dont care for 1'' threadless. they are 500 bucks in the first place, the least you could do is thread it for free.
Except the Low Pro isn't a pursuit frame, it's just a track frame with a long seat tube and a sloping top tube.
http://www.affinitycycles.com/images/files/download_specs_sheet_aff.pdf
Look at the geometry. To get a 57 top tube you're going to get a 60.5cm seat tube. So all you're doing is showing less seat post. If you can do sweet wheeliez on a pista, you can do sweet wheeliez on this bike.
The sloping top tube was originally developed for bikes with 650c or 24" front wheels from days of yore. Later as these developed, they started making the top tubes lower and horizontal to make stiffer frames (the seat stays would remain high), before the UCI decided that you have to have matching front/rear wheels. This frame is far cry from the original use of horns only TT/pursuit frames where the whole point of horns was just to only have the "drop" section. Then LeMond came around with tri bars, and yadda yadda yadda.
1" threadless is kind of a remainder of the late 90's and early 2000's. Furthermore, why anyone would WANT a quill stem on a new frame at this point is kinda dumb. Threadless just works that. much. better. -
- CommentAuthorSkidMark
- CommentTimeJun 18th 2009 edited
Threadless is easier to set up, it's stiffer , and it's stronger. If your stem has a split clamp you can change handlebars without having to remove a grip or unwrap tape, or have a stem for every handlebar.
This bike would be even better with 1-1/8" threadless.
The reason that this bike doesn't have toe overlap is because the seat tube angle is greater than the head tube angle. The old KHS Pursuit and Aerotrack have the mad toe overlap because the seat tube angle is a slack 73.5 degrees. -
- CommentAuthoriron jaiden
- CommentTimeJun 18th 2009
Ok other than the obvious pain in the ass with changing out your bars where do you guys really see the advantages of a threadless stem?
I'm genuinely curious as I really only thought the advantages in threadless were being able to change out your bars easier and slightly better adjustment capabilities.
Is having the stem clamped onto the steerer tube actually more structurally sound than having a quill hold it in place from the inside?
I've never cared much myself. Just kinda go with whatever frame I'm in love with at the time and how it's set up (which most times is classic lugged steel so threaded is the norm for me). -
- CommentAuthorSkidMark
- CommentTimeJun 18th 2009 edited
It is so much easier to adjust and and it maintains it's adjustment. It's easier to disassemble.
It is much stronger. Larger diameter=stronger, it's that simple. I was riding BMX in the time of the Tuf-neck, and all you ever did was have your stem rotate, and bend the quill itself. This is like the early 80's before people started going really big with air. The only thing that made that possible was the threadless stem. For the most part you don't really need this on the street, but i think if you are going to consider doing any sort of tricking threadless is the way to go.
I don't have the attitude that you should shitcan your threaded setup for threadless on any bike. If you are building something new, with VeepDs and other modern shit, then threadless should be in the mix too. -
- CommentAuthoroctopus magic
- CommentTimeJun 18th 2009
Weight and stiffness. Not to mention being able to very very easily adjust your stem angle/height/length.
Quill stems are really kludgy solutions in comparison. -
- CommentAuthorSkidMark
- CommentTimeJun 18th 2009
The think the quill wins on height adjustment: one bolt, no disassembly. But once you settle on a height when to do adjust it again? -
- CommentAuthoriron jaiden
- CommentTimeJun 18th 2009
Yeah it makes sense. Never really thought about the added strength factor. As far as tricks go unless you call skip stops and trackstands at red lights tricks then I'd count myself out there. Not that I don't find the whole freestyle tarck scene impressive, but it's just never been my thing.
I ride to get places and go super fast so the type of stem I use is like the last thing I think about. I am however constantly building up bikes for friends and recommending setups so it's good to hear opinions on things I don't know much about.
Gracias :) -
- CommentAuthorproudxvxyouth
- CommentTimeJun 21st 2009
I like my affinity a lot. It's fun to ride around on.
My only complaint is that the matte white finish becomes impossibly dirty and it very difficult to clean.
I have given up trying to keep it clean after having it for just over a week now haha.
Yay for threadless headsets! -
- CommentAuthorfixedpuch
- CommentTimeJun 21st 2009
Posted By: proudxvxyouth
My only complaint is that the matte white finish becomes impossibly dirty and it very difficult to clean.
BIKE LUST...its the shit -
- CommentAuthoreaglerock
- CommentTimeJun 22nd 2009 edited
Posted By: proudxvxyouthMy only complaint is that the matte white finish becomes impossibly dirty and it very difficult to clean.
Try wiping the scuzz with Simple Green. Try it in a diluted solution first - maybe 1 part Simple Green to 3 parts water; then increase the concentration until it actually works.
Simple Green is my all-purpose bike cleaner. My normal routine with scrounged parts is to soak it down in an SG solution for a day or so, then scrub it with a toothbrush, rinse, dry, inspect, lubricate. Makes stuff clean and pretty. And as I found out last night when I removed some Mafac centerpull brake parts from the bath, it takes that dull gray haze off old non-anodized aluminum, too. -
- CommentAuthorAaron C
- CommentTimeJun 22nd 2009
Posted By: eaglerock
Posted By: proudxvxyouthMy only complaint is that the matte white finish becomes impossibly dirty and it very difficult to clean.
Try wiping the scuzz withSimple Green. Try it in a diluted solution first - maybe 1 part Simple Green to 3 parts water; then increase the concentration until it actually works.
Simple Green is my all-purpose bike cleaner. My normal routine with scrounged parts is to soak it down in an SG solution for a day or so, then scrub it with a toothbrush, rinse, dry, inspect, lubricate. Makes stuff clean and pretty. And as I found out last night when I removed some Mafac centerpull brake parts from the bath, it takes that dull gray haze off old non-anodized aluminum, too.
i'm right with you there, simple green is always at hand for me. -
- CommentAuthorMaxThrash
- CommentTimeJun 22nd 2009
Posted By: SkidMarkThe think the quill wins on height adjustment: one bolt, no disassembly. But once you settle on a height when to do adjust it again?
Of course this is moot if you go with the tarck-obligatory jaguar/sloping threadless stem -
- CommentAuthorMaxThrash
- CommentTimeJun 22nd 2009
Oh, and I'm also curious about the Kisena, but I've never ridden Aluminum. Any reviews? -
- CommentAuthoroctopus magic
- CommentTimeJun 23rd 2009
Posted By: MaxThrashOh, and I'm also curious about the Kisena, but I've never ridden Aluminum. Any reviews?
I know Andrew LaCorte (2008 masters national sprint champ) likes his, but on paper, it doesn't really seem too much different than any other higher end aluminum track frame from the likes of Blue TR250/Dolan ARC 3/Van Dessel Drag Strip Courage/Giant Omnium/New Fuji/Felt/Trek/Cervelo blah blah blah blah, you get the idea. They pretty much designed it around his requirements.
I can't see it really performing any better/worse than the aforementioned frames if you have a good fitment done, and some nice wheels (disc or deep section). I mean at this point, unless you're going carbon fiber for a Look/Koga/Corima/BT, and are gunning for the worlds/olympics, you'll be fast on any of those frames. -
- CommentAuthorthe rabbi
- CommentTimeJun 23rd 2009
i have a friend that tested one... he said the bb flexed like a mother.
then his gf rode it... and said the same thing.
he's a cat1 on the track and she's cat2. -
- CommentAuthorTbirdbassist
- CommentTimeJun 29th 2009
Any bike would flex under the power of a Cat 1/2 track racer. -
- CommentAuthoreBAUMANN
- CommentTimeAug 30th 2009
i have a threadless forked lo pro, how did you get yours to be of the threaded variety? i want to thread mine so bad... -
- CommentAuthorjordanye
- CommentTimeSep 9th 2009
you can take it to a bike shop and they can thread it for you
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