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    Yesterday i was changing a flat and while taking the tire off, the tire lever BROKE! So I was stuck until i could get another lever today to continue putting the tire on. While putting the tire back on tire lever I just bought Broke! Can you guys please tell me what I'm doing wrong? The tire levers that broke are the soma steel core levers. The part on the levers that broke is the plastic shell around the steel on the end that lifts the tire from the rim. Again please tell me what I am doing wrong, thanks.
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    Several things:

    Vittoria tires (Rubinos especially, I don't know about the Zaffiros) are notoriously small and difficult to get on and off.

    That said, you probably are doing something wrong if you broke two levers, one after the other. BUT, IMHO, Soma's tire levers are not up to par. Lots of people like them, but the plastic they use just isn't strong enough. I like Pedro's, but Park makes like five different levers if you like options.

    95% of the time you shouldn't need a lever to mount the tire. It really should be your last resort. The palm of your hand is the best thing to use to get the bead over the last inches of rim. What has worked very well for me when mounting the difficult tire is to "grease" the bead with a little liquid soap -- not much, just enough to lessen the friction against the rim.

    Park has a fairly good tutorial on this subject, in case you need a refresher.
    • CommentAuthoreaglerock
    • CommentTimeNov 6th 2009
     
    For what it's worth, I have also broken a Soma lever: On the plastic end, just after the steel core. In my case, it was a combination of a tire on the small side of 700c going on a rim on the large side of 700c.

    As Sheldon sez, just because it says it's a particular size, doesn't mean it's telling the truth.

    I have a set of wheels built on mid-'80s Ambrosio rims that are on the very outer edge of 700c. Getting any tire on or off is an exercise in pain and frustration (it's the one where I busted the lever). The Ambrosio 19 Extra Super Elite is the rim that converted me to steel tire levers, which used to be far more common than they are now. To the best of my knowledge, Park Tool and Brooks are the only ones currently making them.

    As a general principle, s_d is exactly right: Better to install tires without a lever at all, if you can manage it. But it isn't always possible to do that. And installing/removing tires is as much art as skill; my main LBS runs a series of weekly classes, and three of the nine class sessions are on repairing flat tires.

    What are the rims? What are the tires?
    • CommentAuthorM0THER
    • CommentTimeNov 6th 2009
     
    How are you taking the actual tire off? I've snapped a few levers, including a pedro, when changing a flat. The way I was doing it was two levers at a time so it added way too much pressure (I was trying to compensate for my lack of strength).


    Maybe if you give us more details about the way you actually change your flats we (as in the usuals, bc i don't know shiiiiit) can help you!
    • CommentAuthorSL wheeler
    • CommentTimeNov 6th 2009 edited
     
    Well when i change my flats usually start taking the tire off at around the valve and put another tire lever two spokes away and just follow that pattern with two levers until i can just slid the lever around the rim to get the tire off on one side. The first time my lever broke i had already gotten the first lever on and when i slid the second lever under the tire bead and hooked it to the spoke the tip of the lever cracked off. The second time my lever broke it was in the last few inches where it got really tough, so i just slid the lever under the tire bead lifted up the lever and it just cracked off the tip like the first one. Hope that helps. Thanks for the tip about the soap on the tire bead. Also the tire is a Vitorria Zaffiros.
    • CommentAuthorSkidMark
    • CommentTimeNov 6th 2009 edited
     
    Photobucket
    advice for the ham-fisted
    • CommentAuthorheadydude
    • CommentTimeNov 7th 2009
     
    ^^^ this is great
    • CommentAuthorSL wheeler
    • CommentTimeNov 7th 2009 edited
     
    SkidMark thank for the advice.
    • CommentAuthorSkidMark
    • CommentTimeNov 7th 2009 edited
     
    I figured out what the issue is. You are trying the peel the bead over at the valve stem, which is the hardest place to start doing that. You need to start 180 degrees away from the valve stem, after deflating the tire all the way, and releasing the bead from the rim all the way around. Then you pull the tire up away from the rim (180 degrees away from the valve stem) and work your tire levers around in both directions (on one side) towards the valve stem.

    Using tire levers to put a tire on is a good way to pinch the tube. I know it hurts your fingers, but resist the urge to use tools when installing a tire.

    Another "trick" is to put some air in the tube to give it shape and then get that situated all the way around before you start pushing the bead under the rim. This helps you keep from pinching the tube.

    Zaffiro's are smaller at the bead and are a PITA to mount and dismount. Zaffiro + Velocity Deep V is especially annoying. In my experience wire bead tires are more difficult to mount than Kevlar bead tires.
    • CommentAuthorLyKqiD
    • CommentTimeNov 7th 2009
     
    I dont think I have ever changed a tire with a tire lever. There is a plethora of tools/utensils around the house that meet the same end. Basically putting tape over anything with a tapered edge makes a great tire lever for me.
    • CommentAuthorSkidMark
    • CommentTimeNov 7th 2009 edited
     
    Yes, you could use the screw of damnation, that you found behind the armoire...of despair.
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    Posted By: SkidMarkZaffiro's are smaller at the bead and are a PITA to mount and dismount. Zaffiro + Velocity Deep V is especially annoying. In my experience wire bead tires are more difficult to mount than Kevlar bead tires.


    agreed. some friends and i were hanging out at an lbs one day and we were about to ride off when a sidewall blew out. so he went to change it and broke one of his tire levers. then one of mine. then went in and borrowed a pedro's lever...and broke it. then we finally gave up and got some pliers and wire cutters to get it off. PITA for sure.
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    i once made the mad mistake of using a screw driver. haha
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    i made that mistake once, since then i have learned better.^^
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    I can totally understand the temptation to use a screwdriver. I mean, tire levers cost almost three dollars a pair!
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    Three dollars a pair! What kind of levers do you use?
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    Pedro's, I think? I have a few pair. Some in my backpack, some in my toolbox. Got them at Full Circle, here in Florence, Mass.
    • CommentAuthorFixd
    • CommentTimeNov 11th 2009
     
    heck yeah Vittoria tires are hard to get on!! i couldnt feel my fingers for like 2 days after fitting mine on my weinmann deep V's, you just gotta keep putting muscle into it untill they pop on, get a beer and relax, then start the other in a few.
    • CommentAuthorSL wheeler
    • CommentTimeNov 11th 2009
     
    I'd be down to getting a beer and just kicking it till I start the other one but, I'm only 13, darn.
    • CommentAuthoreaglerock
    • CommentTimeNov 11th 2009
     
    Posted By: SL wheelerI'd be down to getting a beer and just kicking it till I start the other one but, I'm only 13, darn.

    That's why they make Mountain Dew...

    (and Taiwanese bubble-drinks!)
    • CommentAuthorveggie
    • CommentTimeNov 11th 2009
     
    Posted By: Fixdheck yeah Vittoria tires are hard to get on!! i couldnt feel my fingers for like 2 days after fitting mine on my weinmann deep V's, you just gotta keep putting muscle into it untill they pop on, get a beer and relax, then start the other in a few.


    I must have gotten lucky, the ones I just put on were easy as pie.
    • CommentAuthorSL wheeler
    • CommentTimeNov 11th 2009 edited
     
    Posted By: eaglerock
    Posted By: SL wheelerI'd be down to getting a beer and just kicking it till I start the other one but, I'm only 13, darn.

    That's why they make Mountain Dew...

    (and Taiwanese bubble-drinks!)
    • CommentAuthorSL wheeler
    • CommentTimeNov 11th 2009
     
    Mountain Dew for the win!
 


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