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Product Review: Aeroheads V.S. Fusions

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    As we build a tone of wheels we see alot of people choosing Velocity Aeroheads for intended uses that they were never designed to handle (which is pretty much everything). Although the Aerohead rims do have some redeeming qualities such as the lack spoke pull through, they are incredibly flimsy due to the alloy and there shape. It seems like the reason most people purchase them is due to there weight and color offerings. A great alternative to the Aeroheads is the Velocity Fusions. They are much stronger and not much heavier.
    • CommentAuthorSkidMark
    • CommentTimeOct 24th 2009
     
    Yeah but the only reason people are going away from Deep-Vs in the first place is because there is backlash among the "cool people" because they have gotten too popular. Is there that much of a weight difference because my track bike still weighs 19 lbs, with a front brake and steel handlebars. I still think Deep-Vs are the best choice.
    • CommentAuthorsfbee
    • CommentTimeOct 24th 2009
     
    Posted By: SkidMarkI still think Deep-Vs are the best choice.


    Ditto. Weight weenies can suck it.

    I can't speak for aeroheads since I've never ridden them, but deep-v's are especially great for people with big girl figures (like myself). I ride the holy hell out of mine, and have never had to have them trued.
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    Mavic Open Pro's are a much better choice. Lighter then Deep-V's, and stronger then the Aeroheads.
    • CommentAuthorsfbee
    • CommentTimeOct 24th 2009
     
    Posted By: terrible_one49Mavic Open Pro's are a much better choice. Lighter then Deep-V's, and stronger then the Aeroheads.


    Though I have no first hand experience with them, I've heard bad things about open pro rims with heavier riders. I picked up a new set of cxp33 to king hubs the other day, and they're quite nice. Haven't gotten to really put them to the test yet, but I'm optimistic.
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    I am 190 and ride Open Pros on Ultegra hubs. Not the heaviest, I know, but they have been super stable for years. I've ridden a bunch of Velocity road rims (but only owned mountain ones), they all have seemed pretty rigid. I've not heard bad things about Aeroheads in particular, but I am considering them, along with Fusions, for a new build.
    • CommentAuthorveggie
    • CommentTimeOct 24th 2009
     
    I just built a pair of aeroheads. I was thinking of deep v's when buying rims, but the wheels are for my girlfriend's bike and i dont think deep v's are needed. And I don't think the aeroheads are flimsy, my dad has a pair on his cyclocross bike and they hold up fine.
    • CommentAuthorSkidMark
    • CommentTimeOct 24th 2009 edited
     
    Posted By: terrible_one49Mavic Open Pro's are a much better choice. Lighter then Deep-V's, and stronger then the Aeroheads.


    I know some "trendsetters" who tried that out and bent them up right quick, they went back to plain silver and black Deep-Vs with no decals...
    • CommentAuthoreaglerock
    • CommentTimeOct 24th 2009 edited
     
    Posted By: veggieAnd I don't think the aeroheads are flimsy, my dad has a pair on his cyclocross bike and they hold up fine.

    I was having a discussion about that with the owner of Wheelgirl (a local wheelbuilder/custom shop and Velocity dealer) just this afternoon. Her opinion was that sub-32H Aeroheads are usually fine for riders below 180 pounds, with 200 pounds being the upper limit for 32/36H.

    I've been looking at Velocity rims for a set of CX wheels, but I've been nervous about durability. Since I'm below 165 pounds for the first time since 1982, I'm not convinced I can actually stay here. I'm thinking Fusions, which are midway between Aeroheads and Deep Vs both for profile and weight. But there are way fewer color options than the more extreme rims, unless your dealer can talk Velocity into doing something unusual.
    • CommentAuthorveggie
    • CommentTimeOct 24th 2009
     
    I guess he's not a very good example to attest to durability, he only weighs 135.
    • CommentAuthoreaglerock
    • CommentTimeOct 24th 2009 edited
     
    Posted By: veggieI guess he's not a very good example to attest to durability, he only weighs 135.

    Which makes him un ciclista classico. The rest of us are just big ol' lard-butts, and the clothes don't fit us. It's hard for anybody over 150 pounds to look good in a skinsuit.
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    Holy crap.
    • CommentAuthorsfbee
    • CommentTimeOct 24th 2009
     
    Posted By: eaglerockIt's hard for anybody over 150 pounds to look good in a skinsuit.

    • CommentAuthorfilthpunx
    • CommentTimeOct 24th 2009
     
    thats awful. i may have night terrors tonight.
    • CommentAuthoreaglerock
    • CommentTimeOct 24th 2009
     
    Posted By: sfbee
    Posted By: eaglerockIt's hard for anybody over 150 pounds to look good in a skinsuit.


    Not a skinsuit. Gotta look harder.
    • CommentAuthorsfbee
    • CommentTimeOct 24th 2009
     
    Posted By: eaglerockNot a skinsuit. Gotta look harder.




    better?
    • CommentAuthoreaglerock
    • CommentTimeOct 24th 2009
     
    Posted By: sfbeebetter?

    Within the context of this conversation, yes. In all other contexts, ulllllggggghhh.
    • CommentAuthorfilthpunx
    • CommentTimeOct 24th 2009
     
    please just stop with those, its getting hard to hold my beer down
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    my eyes
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    Just threaten him with posting the bloody amputated finger picture.
    • CommentAuthorfilthpunx
    • CommentTimeOct 25th 2009
     
    ohh no, that was awful
    • CommentAuthoreaglerock
    • CommentTimeOct 25th 2009
     
    Posted By: suicide_doorsJust threaten him with posting the bloody amputated finger picture.

    There's a big, wide world out there. I don't have to come here...
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    Sorry, I can't help but mention it from time to time.
    • CommentAuthorAaron C
    • CommentTimeOct 25th 2009
     
    Posted By: eaglerock'm thinking Fusions, which are midway between Aeroheads and Deep Vs both for profile and weight. But there are way fewer color options than the more extreme rims, unless your dealer can talk Velocity into doing something unusual.


    though i haven't talked to them personally i've heard this outfit gets limited color runs from time to time...
    • CommentAuthorveggie
    • CommentTimeOct 25th 2009
     
    Posted By: Aaron C
    Posted By: eaglerock'm thinking Fusions, which are midway between Aeroheads and Deep Vs both for profile and weight. But there are way fewer color options than the more extreme rims, unless your dealer can talk Velocity into doing something unusual.


    though i haven't talked to them personally i've heardthis outfitgets limited color runs from time to time...


    Cannot unsee what has been seen
    • CommentAuthorbionnaki
    • CommentTimeOct 26th 2009
     
    Posted By: SkidMarkYeah but the only reason people are going away from Deep-Vs in the first place is because there is backlash among the "cool people" because they have gotten too popular. Is there that much of a weight difference because my track bike still weighs 19 lbs, with a front brake and steel handlebars. I still think Deep-Vs are the best choice.


    I dont ride deep v's because
    a) I think they're ugly
    b) they're heavy and not a comfortable ride
    c) velocity quality has gone tremendously in the last year or two
    d) I think they're ugly
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    Posted By: bionnakic) velocity quality has gone tremendously in the last year or two

    Care you expand on this a bit? Perhaps some corroborating evidence?
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    Posted By: Aaron C
    Posted By: eaglerock'm thinking Fusions, which are midway between Aeroheads and Deep Vs both for profile and weight. But there are way fewer color options than the more extreme rims, unless your dealer can talk Velocity into doing something unusual.


    though i haven't talked to them personally i've heardthis outfitgets limited color runs from time to time...


    That's because people that are THAT concerned with silly color combos don't really care about super quality rims. They just ride the cheap stuff, whatever is hip colors. Really high quality rims usually only come in black or silver.
    • CommentAuthorbionnaki
    • CommentTimeOct 26th 2009
     
    quality control has been lowered as demand has gone up.
    I have no concrete evidence, just anecdotal.

    a good friend of mine is a wheelbuilder at a shop and has been using
    velocity products for 10 years or so.
    he says the production is very sloppy these days, unlike years ago.
    I trust his opinion. I prefer Mavic, IRD, DT Swiss, Ambrosio these days.

    ask a wheelbuilder that's been around for years -- they might say the same thing.
    • CommentAuthorAaron C
    • CommentTimeOct 26th 2009
     
    Posted By: veggie
    Posted By: Aaron C
    Posted By: eaglerock'm thinking Fusions, which are midway between Aeroheads and Deep Vs both for profile and weight. But there are way fewer color options than the more extreme rims, unless your dealer can talk Velocity into doing something unusual.


    though i haven't talked to them personally i've heardthis outfitgets limited color runs from time to time...


    Cannot unsee what has been seen



    sorry guys, was a trap for eaglerock. that must not have worked....
    • CommentAuthorveggie
    • CommentTimeOct 26th 2009
     
    Posted By: Aaron C
    Posted By: veggie
    Posted By: Aaron C
    Posted By: eaglerock'm thinking Fusions, which are midway between Aeroheads and Deep Vs both for profile and weight. But there are way fewer color options than the more extreme rims, unless your dealer can talk Velocity into doing something unusual.


    though i haven't talked to them personally i've heardthis outfitgets limited color runs from time to time...


    Cannot unsee what has been seen



    sorry guys, was a trap for eaglerock. that must not have worked....


    As bad as this sounds, that picture doesn't actually gross me out that much.
    • CommentAuthorAaron C
    • CommentTimeOct 26th 2009
     
    me either
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    Posted By: bionnakiask a wheelbuilder that's been around for years -- they might say the same thing.

    I'm not challenging your statement, cause it makes enough sense that as the company has become more popular it has started to cut quality control corners to meet demands. I just want to stress the need for solid evidence over conjecture.
    • CommentAuthorbionnaki
    • CommentTimeOct 26th 2009
     
    are you proposing I launch a scientific inquiry and publish my findings in a peer-reviewed journal? I might need to apply for grants, so there will be a bit of a wait. Cool?
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    OMG, I proposed that, yes. Do it!!!!!!!!111111
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    Wait, is there a Journal of Wheelbuilding and Associated Bicycular Arts?

    Cuz I'm totally subscribing.

    (I'm 51% serious. If anyone wants to start a bike hacking zine, I'm on that like a fly on shit, only the shit's chocolate and the fly is me.)
    • CommentAuthorveggie
    • CommentTimeOct 26th 2009
     
    Posted By: Joshua A.C. NewmanWait, is there a Journal of Wheelbuilding and Associated Bicycular Arts?

    Cuz I'mtotallysubscribing.

    (I'm 51% serious. If anyone wants to start a bike hacking zine, I'm on that like a fly on shit, only the shit's chocolate and the fly is me.)


    Fatty
    • CommentAuthoreaglerock
    • CommentTimeOct 26th 2009
     
    Posted By: Joshua A.C. Newman(I'm 51% serious. If anyone wants to start a bike hacking zine, I'm on that like a fly on shit, only the shit's chocolate and the fly is me.)

    BikeHacks?
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    Yeah, but it's not much on how-tos. I read it all the time, don't get me wrong! I think it's full of cool stuff. But I want to do something a bit like Make Magazine where it's about how to do stuff.

    I'd be inclined to do it as a print rag so you can have a copy by the work stand without having to worry about putting a crank through the screen.
    • CommentAuthorSkidMark
    • CommentTimeOct 27th 2009
     
    Being that bicycles are firmly rooted in the world of mechanical things I object to the term "hack" or for that matter "upgrade" when applied to bikes. I customize and modify.

    [rant]Still waiting for the day that computer hardware, software, networks, and servers are remotely as reliable as any sort of vehicle. News flash: machines are supposed to perform the same function the same way every time without fail, unless something is broken and needs replacing. Yes I do expect them to be perfect. I doubt the CNC manufacturing that makes all these crazy modern devices works and runs like shit the way every single PC (personal computer regard of logoways) I've ever had the displeasure of using. Unfortunately they are a necessary tool, but it's like making a bicycle frame with nothing but a hacksaw and a file, except it loses it's charm a lot faster[/rant]

    I've done some bike mod how-to's on zoobomb.net, like doing extended forks, etc. I used to be real clandestine about that stuff but I've come to realize that almost any idea I have is never unique. I've come to terms with that...
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    Being that bicycles are firmly rooted in the world of mechanical things I object to the term "hack"


    Dude. It's always meant physical things. It means using things in creative ways outside their design spec.
    • CommentAuthorSkidMark
    • CommentTimeOct 28th 2009 edited
     
    I guess you missed the "Negative usage in engineering" paragraph.

    "Another meaning of the term "hack", similar to kludge and distinct from both the positive and security-related meanings discussed above, derives from the everyday English sense "to cut or shape by or as if by crude or ruthless strokes" [Merriam-Webster]. In other words to "hack" at an original creation, as if with an axe, is to force-fit it into being usable for a task not intended by the original creator, and a "hacker" would be someone who does this habitually."

    I stand by my opinion and preference. (because it is an opinion and a preference)

    Things that roll i.e. bicycles, motorcycles, and cars have traditionally been modified and customized. That vernacular has been around since the 40's maybe earlier.

    I think Hot Rodding would be a more appropriate term than hack(ing). Most of the time you are improving performance, sometimes stripping extraneous parts off and making it look "cooler" . Adding lights, racks, or building a full-on cargo bike could be likened to "survival bikes" a sort of Mad Max style of customizing motorcycles.
    • CommentAuthorSkidMark
    • CommentTimeOct 28th 2009
     
    It's interesting that they mention MIT. I dated an MIT student in the 80's, and they are way off on the meaning of "urban spelunking" That specifically refers to exploring the tunnels under MIT, both walkways between buildings and utility tunnels, and also the abandoned subway tunnels on the MBTA's Green and Red Lines, as well as abandoned buildings and buildings under construction.

    It's wikipedia, not the gospel.
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    Yeah, I often call it hot rodding, m'self.

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