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- CommentAuthorKenW
- CommentTimeSep 26th 2009
So I bought a PEUGEOT road bike super vitus 980 for $200 as my second road bike... Is this a good bike? should I return this bike to the owner and get my money back? because one friend said it was an ok bike, and the other said it was an amazing bike to ride.
Please tell me what you think. Thanks!
PS: I am planning to get it powder coated to an awesome awesome color! which color should I go for? :)


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traffic law? police? screw you. let us ride in piece! -
- CommentAuthorbionnaki
- CommentTimeSep 26th 2009
I wouldnt pay 200 for a french-threaded peugeot conversion. good luck getting your money back, though. -
- CommentAuthorKenW
- CommentTimeSep 26th 2009
seriously? is it really that bad? -
- CommentAuthorRuffinit
- CommentTimeSep 26th 2009
Actually you have a very very nice frameset there. I would never powder coat it and would try to keep the paint on it as nice as possible (I always loved the "metallic white"). The SV980 was a "lively" frameset and you probably did fine with the purchase. It's a real shame that it didn't come with the road componentry. Here's some history on this frame; it compares to the Reynolds 531 and is one of the lightest conventional framesets of the time (mid-80s).
The base set at this time became known as Durifort-Rubis 888.Not much later Ateliers revised its range to include Vitus 888, at 2030 gms, a plain gauge set for touring frames, Vitus 181 a D/B set weighing 1790gms for racing., Super Vitus 983, at 1624gms, a "Course Professionel" set and Super Vitus 980, at 1507gms a "Course Professionel" Serie Extra Legere set. The SV980 also appeared as "Profil Arcor" an "aero" shaped set weighing in at 1615gms, and the 888 series figured also as "Vitus Profil" - a P/G aero set at 2030gms. Curiously Ateliers de la Rive never included the steering column and head tube in these weights. The "buzz on the block" at the time was that the SV980 set underwent some heat-treatment. The tube sets were delivered with instructions about how to braze these tubes and how to ensure that they did not suffer from "cold-shock" which could make them brittle. -
- CommentAuthormeatroll
- CommentTimeSep 26th 2009
improperly fitting frame, no foot retention, and a back brake rather than a front brake
that is all. -
- CommentAuthorKenW
- CommentTimeSep 26th 2009
oh, thanks for the insanely descriptive info on this bike Ruffinit! and what do you mean meatroll? (sorry Im kinda new to biking and I have no idea what you just said...) -
- CommentAuthormeatroll
- CommentTimeSep 26th 2009
if your seat has to be that low, the frame is too big for you. and you have no clips and straps. aaand back-brakes only - stupid - if you're going to use a brake get one for the front, where it actually makes a difference. also, handlebar tape is good. -
- CommentAuthorsuicide_doors
- CommentTimeSep 26th 2009
I concur with Ruffinit. You did pay a bit much for a poorly done conversion, but it was a good frame for its day. I've always been a fan of the Peuguot paint job. They're never overdone or particularly trendy, but tend to look good no matter what. The only concerning thing about it is that the frame is pretty large and you have the seat down pretty low. How tall are you? Can you stand over the frame without injuring your dangley parts? -
- CommentAuthorsuicide_doors
- CommentTimeSep 26th 2009
Is it a single speed or fixed gear? -
- CommentAuthorKenW
- CommentTimeSep 26th 2009
I am 5"7 and the road bike is 54 cm. when I bought it the seat was already low, I mean I literally got this bike 1 hour ago. -
- CommentAuthorKenW
- CommentTimeSep 26th 2009
Its single speed, but my friend is going to make it fix gear. -
- CommentAuthorsuicide_doors
- CommentTimeSep 26th 2009
That frame is a 54cm? Did you measure it? -
- CommentAuthormeatroll
- CommentTimeSep 26th 2009
i promise you, that is not 54cm. -
- CommentAuthorKenW
- CommentTimeSep 26th 2009
how can you measure a bike? sorry for the stupid question but Im new to bikes haha -
- CommentAuthorsuicide_doors
- CommentTimeSep 26th 2009 edited
Center of the Bottom Bracket (where the crank is attached...where the measuring tape begins(drunk, sorry) the lower part of the measurement, down there) to the center of the top tube (the tube which runs horizontal).
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- CommentAuthorbensonisajew
- CommentTimeSep 26th 2009
looks like a 59 or 61 -
- CommentAuthormeatroll
- CommentTimeSep 26th 2009
google.com
i might be wrong but i think this could work. click on the blank part where you normally type things like "where can i find pictures of huge fake titties for free" but this time dont type that. take a deep breath. okay, now, type the following: "how to measure a bicycle frame". let me know how that goes for you!
also
sheldonbrown.com -
- CommentAuthorsuicide_doors
- CommentTimeSep 26th 2009
Or you can measure the way that diagram shows, that could be called a center to top measurement. What I described is a center to center. Which is what that bike was measured by back when it was new. -
- CommentAuthorKenW
- CommentTimeSep 26th 2009
ok I'll be right back, going to go measure my bike now.. -
- CommentAuthorsuicide_doors
- CommentTimeSep 26th 2009
Fuck, I chose the wrong image for this tutorial. -
- CommentAuthorKenW
- CommentTimeSep 26th 2009
oh no its a freaken 60... ergh this is so frustrating, looks like Im going to have to go return it. -
- CommentAuthorKenW
- CommentTimeSep 26th 2009
I measured it in cm, and multiplied it with 2.4. fuck. FUCK!!! -
- CommentAuthorsuicide_doors
- CommentTimeSep 26th 2009
Yeah, that's too big. I'm 5'7" and 54 is pretty much the biggest I can ride comfortably. -
- CommentAuthorsuicide_doors
- CommentTimeSep 26th 2009
Posted By: KenWI measured it in cm, and multiplied it with 2.4. fuck. FUCK!!!
I think you mean inches. But yeah, too big. -
- CommentAuthormeatroll
- CommentTimeSep 26th 2009
you might find that craigslist doesnt work the same wal-mart and people wont always accept your returns. not to worry, come back on here and we can hold your hand and together we will step-by-step make a craigslist posting for you! -
- CommentAuthorKenW
- CommentTimeSep 26th 2009
haha! well I live in LA.. do you guys live in that area? -
- CommentAuthorKenW
- CommentTimeSep 26th 2009 edited
and do you know anyone who is willing to sell a decent/ good fix gear 54 cm road bike for about $200? -
- CommentAuthorwes m.
- CommentTimeSep 26th 2009
Posted By: suicide_doors
Posted By: KenWI measured it in cm, and multiplied it with 2.4. fuck. FUCK!!!
I think you mean inches. But yeah, too big.
Yeah, and an inch is 2.54 centimeters so its even bigger than the too big previously posted. -
- CommentAuthorsuicide_doors
- CommentTimeSep 26th 2009
I lived in Pasadena (and surrounding cities for ... 16 years, I think). Not anymore, but that doesn't matter. Anyway, meatroll is probably right about you not getting your money back, but it would be easy to sell it again (though you may have to absorb some of the cost). Next time around, take someone who knows about bikes with you . -
- CommentAuthorJoshua A.C. Newman
- CommentTimeSep 26th 2009
The dude's not ethically obligated to give your money back because you changed your mind. You can ask, of course, but you made an agreement.
If it is, indeed French-threaded, that could be expensive when the BB goes eventually, but the bike is otherwise not bad. Double-butted tubing, short wheelbase, fully functional. If the bearings have been well-maintained, this could be a nice bike.
If it were mine, and it's not, I'd flip the brake levers around — they'll look and work better the other way. I'd put caps over the shifter bosses...wait...
what the fuck? There's only a back brake? Get that shit sorted, dude. Stopping is a very important part of biking. If you don't need it, nix the bottle cage. If you use it, keep it, of course.
There's no reason this couldn't be a very enjoyable bike. Make it be the bike you want to ride. -
- CommentAuthorJoshua A.C. Newman
- CommentTimeSep 26th 2009
(Whoa. There were only two other posts in this thread when I started writing that.) -
- CommentAuthorsuicide_doors
- CommentTimeSep 26th 2009
Posted By: KenW... sell ... 54 cm road bike ... $200?
I have a 54cm road bike frame which I want to sell, but you don't want to pay shipping on that. You should really just save up and buy a Kilo TT for $350. IMHO a conversion is only right when you already have a frame and know your ass from a hole in the ground. Cyclistically speaking. -
- CommentAuthorsuicide_doors
- CommentTimeSep 26th 2009
Posted By: Joshua A.C. Newman(Whoa. There were only two other posts in this thread when I started writing that.)
Dude, you're getting old. -
- CommentAuthorJoshua A.C. Newman
- CommentTimeSep 26th 2009
Ah, now that I've read the thread: I'm 5'9" and I ride a 53-54cm. That's too big for you. You'll wind up resting your weight on your groin.
See what you can get for it on CL and do over.
You need a 50-52 frame. Lots of folks here are happy to help you get sorted. Maybe build a bike from bits, maybe buy something someone else built. -
- CommentAuthorKenW
- CommentTimeSep 26th 2009
ahhhhh but right now my budget is about $200. ajksfhlaksjhdfasdf -
- CommentAuthorsuicide_doors
- CommentTimeSep 26th 2009
That's your budget after losing $200, or assuming you can get this $200 back? -
- CommentAuthorKenW
- CommentTimeSep 26th 2009
yeah, I sent an email to the guy and he said "sorry about the error, thats what my friend told me so I'll pay you right back. meet me at my place tomorrow, blah blah blah"
So yeah my budget is back to $200.. any ideas suicide_doors? -
- CommentAuthorsuicide_doors
- CommentTimeSep 26th 2009
Man, Ken, I don't know. If you're stuck to your $200 budget, you can probably find something else on CL similar to what you just bought (but the proper size). Maybe even a used Kilo or something. Otherwise, if you're sure you want a fixed gear, I would just save another $150 and but a new one from Bikes Direct. Road frame fixed conversions are dangerous if not done correctly, and there are a lot of incorrect fixed jobs on CL. Especially in LA. If you have someone around who can guide you through things, go for it. If not, I really can't recommend buying an intentionally fixed bike highly enough. The Kilo is the way to go. You can learn about the sport and not die because someone welded your hub and cog together. -
- CommentAuthorbensonisajew
- CommentTimeSep 26th 2009
I just bought a Kilo frame for $150 on CL! -
- CommentAuthorsuicide_doors
- CommentTimeSep 26th 2009
I'm seriously considering the semi-chromed Kilos Mike is introducing next year. -
- CommentAuthorsuicide_doors
- CommentTimeSep 26th 2009
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- CommentAuthorbensonisajew
- CommentTimeSep 26th 2009
Looks sick
I heard kilo is a okay frame I got if for a steal came with fork(I gotta thread it and cut it) but I cant wait to build it up -
- CommentAuthorKenW
- CommentTimeSep 26th 2009 edited
how much is that? -
- CommentAuthorsuicide_doors
- CommentTimeSep 26th 2009
Well, they're okay for messing around with. That's what I plan to do. No reason to spend a bunch more for that. -
- CommentAuthorbensonisajew
- CommentTimeSep 26th 2009
no doubt It is good for the money -
- CommentAuthorsuicide_doors
- CommentTimeSep 26th 2009
DAMMIT KEN, STOP STEALING MY FRAMES!
Right now it would cost me $65 to get it to my house. But it's eBay, nobody who is halfway intelligent bids before the last 45 seconds. I'm guessing it will go for between $100-$150 shipped. But that's a pretty random guess (refer to my aforementioned mild inebriation). -
- CommentAuthorsuicide_doors
- CommentTimeSep 26th 2009
(you can click in the photo I posted, it will take you to the auction page.) -
- CommentAuthorsuicide_doors
- CommentTimeSep 26th 2009
Buy it, cause I won't, most likely. I won't be mad. -
- CommentAuthorKenW
- CommentTimeSep 26th 2009
I probably wont buy it.. I'd rather buy a whole bike and then change some stuff from there. do you know any good bikes for about $200, new or used? -
- CommentAuthorKenW
- CommentTimeSep 26th 2009
lol I also friend requested you in facebook!


