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- CommentAuthorgreg
- CommentTimeSep 16th 2009
Any advice for getting the stripped and rusted bolts out of my cleats and shoes? Both bolts (eggbeater cleats) are thoroughly stripped and rusted after a few winters of commuting and a few efforts at removing them.
Rather than tossing the shoes (Pearl Izumi Vagabond MTB, only $40 at Performance) I'd like to get the cleat off and replace it -
- CommentAuthorsuicide_doors
- CommentTimeSep 16th 2009
My first try would be carefully applied WD-40 and a pair of needle nose pliers if your allen won't handle it. If you can remove one bolt and not the other, try rotating the cleat itself. You can try hammering it with a flat screwdriver a little. If you really want to get involved use a Dremel tool?
I think for $40 you should buy new shoes and use some anti-seize every winter. -
- CommentAuthorfilthpunx
- CommentTimeSep 16th 2009 edited
valve grinding compound?ive seen it used for stripped screws with good results -
- CommentAuthorsuicide_doors
- CommentTimeSep 16th 2009
BTW, I had been riding with my clipless Diadoras on Eggbeaters for five years now with no cleat replacement. When I went to remove the cleats (because the soles have been worn down to the point of scratching floors with the cleat), turning the allen produced a noticeable amount of smoke. Terrific. -
- CommentAuthorgreg
- CommentTimeSep 16th 2009
I've definitely popped some old cleat bolts off and had some sparks / smoke fire up. I will try soaking the bolts with some pentrating oil and see if that helps -
- CommentAuthoreaglerock
- CommentTimeSep 16th 2009
Posted By: gregI've definitely popped some old cleat bolts off and had some sparks / smoke fire up. I will try soaking the bolts with some pentrating oil and see if that helps
When de-seizing, time is critical; give the penetrating oil a couple of days to really work its way in. You might try giving the cleats a rap with some metal object (box wrench?) to draw the oil into the gaps in the threads by vibrating the join. Hit it with more oil every time it looks dry,and try again after two days or so.
And of course, greasing bolts before you thread them in during installation is a big deal. -
- CommentAuthorfixedpuch
- CommentTimeSep 16th 2009
I would just drill them out. Get a drill bit that is a little bit smaller than the threads of the bolt. Hold the shoe steady (I like to use a vice). Then drill into the slot where you would put your wrench or screwdriver. It will pop and you most likely wont even need to replace that little plate that the cleat is bolted on to. -
- CommentAuthorsuicide_doors
- CommentTimeSep 16th 2009
That seems a little extreme for a first try. Has this been routinely successful for you? -
- CommentAuthorniwile
- CommentTimeSep 17th 2009
Drill them out. I was damn sure not giving up a pair of sidi dominators for a siezed cleat, drilled 'em out and was good to go. fixedpuch method has worked for me a couple of times and I've always greased my cleats screwed since. good luck -
- CommentAuthorfixedpuch
- CommentTimeSep 17th 2009
Its not really that extreme, you just have to be good with tools and its easy as cake....
....mmmm....cake -
- CommentAuthorAaron C
- CommentTimeSep 17th 2009
Posted By: gregAny advice for getting the stripped and rusted bolts out of my cleats and shoes? Both bolts (eggbeater cleats) are thoroughly stripped and rusted after a few winters of commuting and a few efforts at removing them.
don't you hate this! exact same thing happened on my egg beater cleats due to winter riding. i threw some anti seize on the threads before installation (obviously not enough) but midwest winters are cold, wet, and salty. -
- CommentAuthoreaglerock
- CommentTimeSep 17th 2009 edited
Posted By: Aaron Cexact same thing happened on my egg beater cleats due to winter riding. i threw some anti seize on the threads before installation (obviously not enough) but midwest winters are cold, wet, and salty.
It seems to me that the environmental factor is the key issue. Out here in CA, winter means rain, not snow; so, no road salt to corrode stuff. Perhaps a wise regional maintenance strategy would include weekly or monthly removal/regreasing of cleats? -
- CommentAuthorcyclecrazyjames
- CommentTimeSep 17th 2009 edited
It must be a regional thing. The same thing happened to mine(eggbeater as well), luckily they werent fully stripped, but stripped enough to fit the next size hex wrench in to get it out(well I guess that is pretty stripped!!) I know I used a wrench of some sort also to help get out, but this was over a year ago when this happened, so I cant remember how I exactly did it. ever since I havent used eggbeater cleats or pedals. -
- CommentAuthorAaron C
- CommentTimeSep 17th 2009
i also think that it is a design flaw among crank bros cleats.
in my case atleast it was less of a "cleat-bolt-seized-into-shoe-problem" and more of a "bolt-seized-into-'washer'-problem" perhaps if they made the washer of brass as well as the cleat you'd minimize the problem of the bolt and washer rusted together. you may run into brass on brass and or deformation issues but i can't imagine it would be a worse than this:
Posted By: eaglerockPerhaps a wise regional maintenance strategy would include weekly or monthly removal/regreasing of cleats?
as soon as i can afford a new pair of shoes and or get these fuckers off... -
- CommentAuthoreaglerock
- CommentTimeSep 17th 2009
All y'all snow country folk live out there with the road saltage, which trashes not just cleats, but blacktop.
CB is a SoCal company; I am a NorCal guy. We Californians cannot be held responsible for your poor choice of living environment.
:-0
Really, I do sympathize with your problem. Maybe try naval jelly and a brass brush to de-scuzz the cleats now; aggressive and regular use of goopy grease in future.
(When in doubt, use grease. If it's the wrong thing, you'll find out soon enough...) -
- CommentAuthorAaron C
- CommentTimeSep 17th 2009
Posted By: eaglerockAll y'all snow country folk live out there with the road saltage, which trashes not just cleats, but blacktop.
true story, trashy asphalt trashes bike wheels too.
egg beaters just happen to be (in my humble opinion) the best pedal option for winter riding. -
- CommentAuthorsuicide_doors
- CommentTimeSep 17th 2009
I've never ridden clipless other than egg beaters and have never felt the need to. They just work. For me. -
- CommentAuthoreaglerock
- CommentTimeSep 17th 2009
Posted By: suicide_doorsI've never ridden clipless other than egg beaters and have never felt the need to. They just work. For me.
I started out with cheapo SPDs (the Nashbar clone of the SPD/platform combo) with cheapo Answer shoes. I could never get comfortable with them; I never developed the touch to get the cleats into the pedals, but I often found that I'd cleated them without knowing - a NASTY surprise at times. Crank Brothers worked from day one, and I can use the same cleats on both road and mountain pedals (for the win!).
If I could only find a set of Candys or Quattros in celeste for the old Bianchi (at a less-than-astronomical price), then CB would gratify my every pedal desire. -
- CommentAuthorsuicide_doors
- CommentTimeSep 18th 2009
Yeah, I do hate that the pair of Mallets I pulled off my mtb don't match my two speed.
Ok, I just slapped myself for saying that. -
- CommentAuthoreaglerock
- CommentTimeSep 18th 2009 edited
Posted By: suicide_doorsYeah, I do hate that the pair of Mallets I pulled off my mtb don't match my two speed.
Ok, I just slapped myself for saying that.
Give me a break; I'm an anal-retentive control freak, and I want to keep my 1988 bike period-correct. I have other bikes that have been savagely Frankenbiked. I have a modern, indexed road bike already. I could have done the usual: Cold-set the rear dropouts to 130 and Shimanofy the hell out of it. That would have been easier.
But nooooooooo; Mr. Obsessive-Compulsive had to hunt down budget-priced C-Record Campy (including the only-in-1989 Campy Record non-aero seatpost!). The only non-period thing left is the pedals, and I have a line on a set of Chorus aeros from the local bike kitchen.
Really, cleated pedals would make the bike a lot more rideable. But I ain't a-gonna buy oldie Looks, get another pair of shoes and learn another cleat system just for period-correct cleated pedals. If Los Hermanos de Crank made celeste pedals (or even white pedals), that would be close enough. The only celeste pedals I've ever seen have been SPD mountain things; that is not acceptable.
These are merely my own private obsessions. If I'm hurting anyone here by entertaining them, you're going to have to explain the nature of your injury to me.
Mallets are too big and klunky anyway. -
- CommentAuthorsuicide_doors
- CommentTimeSep 18th 2009
All I'm going to say is that this, along with your obsession with knives, yeasty combustibles, and ... There is something else I've forgotten. Anyway, it may warrant some sort of examination.
For the record, I like it when things look right, too. I just wish it were easier to let it slide when something doesn't. -
- CommentAuthorfixedpuch
- CommentTimeSep 18th 2009
Eaglerock, I believe Los Hermanos De Crank does make celest and white pedals along with a bunch of other colors such as tangerine and lime. -
- CommentAuthoreaglerock
- CommentTimeSep 18th 2009 edited
Posted By: fixedpuchEaglerock, I believe Los Hermanos De Crank does make celest and white pedals along with a bunch of other colors such as tangerine and lime.
I suspect they do, too; but I'll bet it's only for team orders. A lot of CB Quattros come up on eBay in orange and kelly green, but they're always team leftovers (the greenies are Sierra Nevada, the beer company). I bet team orders have probably a 10-unit minimum, plus a fixed fee for doing a custom order.
No thanks; I'm a cheapskate. I keep my eyes open for dealz, though...
WTF? I've just checked CB's site, and they don't have Quattros listed. The only road product they have is the Cyan ISIS BB, Quattro cleats and pedal rebuild kits. This could be berry berry bad for eaglerock.
EDIT: AAAAA! They've discontinued the Quattro! AAAAA!
Now I have to stockpile pedals, or at least stockpile rebuild kits and 3-hole cleat adapters. Dammit.... -
- CommentAuthorfixedpuch
- CommentTimeSep 19th 2009
Ya, they will be expensive but most bike shops should be able to special order them from their one of their vendors.
I heard about the discontinued Quattro and got sad.
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