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- CommentAuthorstinky pete
- CommentTimeSep 13th 2009
The Brooks B72 on my old Raleigh rod-brake 3 speed has developed a rip from one of the side rivets on the front, likely from some 30+ years hanging in my in-laws poll barn never receiving any Proofide. (You can just see it starting in this picture of the seat, http://velospace.org/node/18555 ) As a result I’m in the market for a new replacement, & while I don’t mind paying for quality, I demand it when I shell out the cash for it. I’m thinking of going with the B67 Pre-aged, (http://www.brookssaddles.com/en/Shop_ProductPage.aspx?cat=saddles+-+city+%26+heavy+duty&prod=B67+S+Aged ) because I experienced some numbness with the B72. We have all heard the stories of legendary Brooks saddles that last for decades & become a second skin for the riders.
My question is this, at $130.00 in your opinion, are they worth it?
What are your stories, good or bad about them? -
- CommentAuthorsuicide_doors
- CommentTimeSep 13th 2009
Recent thread about the B17 in particular.
I own a B17 Champion Special and if I ever have need for a new saddle, I doubt I would look elsewhere. I've ridden several models other than the B17, the 67 among them, but not for any extended time. They all seemed comfortable for the riding position and purpose of the bikes they were on.
In my opinion you can do no better than to replace your Brooks with a Brooks. There is no competition for touring, cruising, commuting... Well, anything beside the weight concerned and those who do tricks. -
- CommentAuthorquidose
- CommentTimeSep 13th 2009
Are you asking whether Brooks saddles in general are worth it? Or whether the B72 (which can be purchased for 99.99) specifically is worth it? And I apologize if I'm mistaken, but wasn't there just a thread on this very topic? -
- CommentAuthorCANosprayPAINT
- CommentTimeSep 13th 2009 edited
Selle An-Atomica is just as good if you looking for something else with quality
http://www.selleanatomica.com -
- CommentAuthorJoshua A.C. Newman
- CommentTimeSep 13th 2009
That doesn't look to me like a critical saddle failure. Are you sure you need a replacement and not just a good Proofiding? -
- CommentAuthorstinky pete
- CommentTimeSep 14th 2009 edited
Posted By: suicide_doorsRecent thread about the B17 in particular.
Let me apologize right now for not looking elsewhere for a thread on this subject, but honestly it never entered my mind to do so.
Now that I have fallowed the link you provided, and re-read the thread, I realize I had actually read it but had for gotten it. It was like déjà-vu all over again. Again, I apologize. And thank you, it was very good reading.Posted By: Joshua A.C. NewmanThat doesn't look to me like a critical saddle failure. Are you sure you need a replacement and not just a good Proofiding?
As for my damaged old saddle, in the time since that picture was taken that crack has turned into a brake clear through the leather from the rivet straight down to the bottom. Sure I could continue to use it but I don’t want to further damage the saddle, & instead will put it with the other original parts I have removed from the bike but still have.
On a side note, do the larger copper rivets on some models do anything other than just look good?
I like the look of them, but since I’m such a “function over fashion” guy, I am hesitant to spend the extra cost for those copper rivets if they don’t actually do anything other than look good. -
- CommentAuthormmediaman
- CommentTimeSep 14th 2009
if it's going on your raleigh stick with a b72, at that bikes age keep it stock -
- CommentAuthorsuicide_doors
- CommentTimeSep 14th 2009
Posted By: stinky pete
Let me apologize right now
No, you're good. Plus, that thread doesn't really address your question. I linked to it simply for additional information.Posted By: stinky pete
On a side note, do the larger copper rivets on some models do anything other than just look good?
I like the look of them, but since I’m such a “function over fashion” guy, I am hesitant to spend the extra cost for those copper rivets if they don’t actually do anything other than look good.
They're nothing but eye candy. -
- CommentAuthorsspecialsteve
- CommentTimeSep 18th 2009
My roommate got a b-17 and it only took one ride to realize why this company has been around since cavemen rode bikes with stone wheels. -
- CommentAuthorstinky pete
- CommentTimeSep 18th 2009
Thanks for the feedback guys. In my ramblings I happened across these two vid’s on the making of Brooks Saddles, enjoy...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9w-y24Waz4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYirlnS19-s -
- CommentAuthorstinky pete
- CommentTimeSep 18th 2009
Posted By: CANosprayPAINTSelle An-Atomica is just as good if you looking for something else with quality
http://www.selleanatomica.com
Thank you for your link. I have since viewed the following link and am considering it for another one of my bikes!
http://www.selleanatomica.com/Product%20Info.htm -
- CommentAuthoreaglerock
- CommentTimeSep 18th 2009
Posted By: stinky pete
Posted By: CANosprayPAINTSelle An-Atomica is just as good if you looking for something else with quality
http://www.selleanatomica.com
Thank you for your link. I have since viewed the following link and am considering it for another one of my bikes!
http://www.selleanatomica.com/Product%20Info.htm
I just eBay-hoovered one up earlier this week for my Raleigh Int'l/touring build. I'll post back as soon as I've ridden it for a bit. -
- CommentAuthorsuicide_doors
- CommentTimeSep 18th 2009
I'll be waiting for that. -
- CommentAuthorstinky pete
- CommentTimeOct 29th 2009 edited
Put on my new Brooks Flyer today after slathering it all up with Proofide, then buffed off the top. I then went for lap around town.
I’m a happy camper...
Thanks again for the help! -
- CommentAuthorjockscum
- CommentTimeOct 29th 2009
I had a Brooks B17 Imperial for a while. After the break-in period it sat perfect! I just sold it off because I was tired of having to worry about locking it up in the city... -
- CommentAuthoreaglerock
- CommentTimeOct 29th 2009 edited
Posted By: jockscumI had a Brooks B17 Imperial for a while. After the break-in period it sat perfect! I just sold it off because I was tired of having to worry about locking it up in the city...
The Brooks Imperial line uses a similar cutout to the Selle An-Atomica, but less extreme. For Brooks owners that like the effect of the nut-slot, Selle An-Atomica will cut their slot in a Brooks saddle for $49.50, including their laminated strengthening layer.
I'm going to be building out a Raleigh with a Selle An-Atomica this weekend; build thread and saddle report coming shortly. -
- CommentAuthorbionnaki
- CommentTimeOct 30th 2009
does the cutout really make that much difference? -
- CommentAuthoreaglerock
- CommentTimeOct 30th 2009
Posted By: bionnakidoes the cutout really make that much difference?
My initial experiments suggest that it does. I haven't broken in an all-leather saddle in 30 years, so I'm going from distant memory; I recall noticing the traditional saddle, and the differences between the saddle and my own backside - differences that took hundreds of miles to reconcile. The An-Atomica immediately molded to my ass, suggesting that the breakin time will be much shorter.
The bike isn't in rolling condition yet, so this is just from perching on top of it. My plan is to get the build finished (in rolling condition, if not in concours condition) this weekend, because I have to return the repair stand I bought for my friend, now that he's cleaned out garage space for it.
Go for broke... -
- CommentAuthorsuicide_doors
- CommentTimeOct 30th 2009
I'm eager to see your build thread. -
- CommentAuthorsfbee
- CommentTimeOct 30th 2009
I just picked up b17 (no cutout) from a local shop today, and I'm eager to try it out. I guess I'll give it the initial proof hide treatment tonight, and christen it with my ass on a Sunday ride. -
- CommentAuthorsfbee
- CommentTimeNov 2nd 2009
I managed to put around 100 miles on it over the last few days. Though my ass quite a bit sore from breaking it in, I feel it's definitely more accommodating to the needs of my voluptuous butt. I'm hoping to have it sufficiently broken in within the next couple of weeks, since it's really kicking my butt right now. -
- CommentAuthorglobalsunset
- CommentTimeNov 2nd 2009
Yeah so far it's been rough for me; lets hope the post-breakin comfort is as everyone says -
- CommentAuthorFootsore Rambler
- CommentTimeNov 3rd 2009
I've only ever tried the B17, and it's apparently the perfect shape for my butt. I broke my first one in in less than 10 miles, and it is easily the most comfortable saddle I've ever had.
I didn't get the Proofide, though. Instead, I treated both of mine with Sno-Seal, because it's wax-based and I already had a jar for my hiking boots. It seemed to work quite well.
http://www.atsko.com/products/waterproofing/sno-seal.html -
- CommentAuthorJoshua A.C. Newman
- CommentTimeNov 3rd 2009
Breaking in usually takes a looong time. I think your broke in your ass instead. -
- CommentAuthorstinky pete
- CommentTimeNov 3rd 2009
As I understand it, the flyer that I have is really just a B17 with springs under the back of it. While I haven’t put any serious miles on it yet, I can say that it is the most comfortable saddle I have tried, even if it is also the most expensive. I too have had some minor soreness at first after riding, but this has since passed. The saddle is still plenty stiff, but it seems to fit me well & I have faith that it’ll just get better from here out.
THANKS again guys for your help!!
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