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- CommentAuthorscottybonesss
- CommentTimeAug 10th 2009
not worth 70$ for that peice of garbage -
- CommentAuthorESR
- CommentTimeAug 10th 2009
amen -
- CommentAuthorjam guy
- CommentTimeAug 11th 2009
I have had mine for five years. No problems. -
- CommentAuthorterrible_one49
- CommentTimeAug 11th 2009
Why? What is wrong with them? I've had friends ride them for a long time and have zero problems. How much problems can a sealed hub actually give you? -
- CommentAuthorfloggingdavy
- CommentTimeAug 11th 2009
I've had a pair for about 4 years and i really like them. i bought them used off a friend who i think rode them for a year or so. the only issue that I had is that the cones have come out of "adjustment," and thus ruined the bearings (twice). I say "adjustment" because after the second time that it happened I got ahold of surly and they told me they were "adjustable". I was a bit confused because I dont know why I would want to adjust them and what made them different than other hubs. To me they are either adjusted to the correct or the incorrect position.
All that being said, these hubs ride great and take a beating, but so do IRO's and they are cheaper. -
- CommentAuthorSkidMark
- CommentTimeAug 11th 2009
Of course you have to be able to adjust the cones. There is no internal spacer between the bearings, so it is easy to put a side-load on the bearings if they are too tight. A sealed bearing just means you don't have to grease the bearings, it doesn't mean they don't need to be adjusted.
What probably happened was a cone locknut wasn't tight enough and when you tightened your axle nut it rotated the axle and put a side-load on the bearing. This is why whenever you take a wheel off you check the hub to see if it's too loose or too tight. Also expecting them to come from the factory perfectly adjusted is ridiculous.So is expecting them to remain perfectly adjusted forever.
I have heard that like the Suzue ProMax, the axle nuts occasionally cross-thread and then it is new axle time. Not that big of a deal, unless it's happening every time the wheel is taken off. -
- CommentAuthorsteelisreal
- CommentTimeAug 11th 2009
they're fine, you just need to know how to adjust them. even though they are a sealed bearing hub, they still have to be adjusted like a loose ball hub, or you'll fry the bearings. i had some Surly hubs a while back on my Soma Rush, they were not bad if you just took the time to get them right. Not many people know how to or want to mess with that but they're good for the price. -
- CommentAuthorRuffinit
- CommentTimeAug 11th 2009
If the problem is adjustment, you just need to get back to the basics of the mechanism. Like Davey said above, just because bearings are sealed doesn't mean there is no maintenance required... You have bearings and you have cartridge bearings. Cartridge bearings don't need adjustments, basically you set them and go, regular bearings are generally loose ball bearings that require cone adjustments and have a jam nut which will keep them from loosening or tightening. A good example of a very high quality loose bearing hub is Campagnolo. Though I'm not familiar with the Surley hubs, based upon the other responses, they are probably not cartrige bearings and will require maintenance from time to time. -
- CommentAuthorscottybonesss
- CommentTimeAug 11th 2009
thank you guys but i think my hub is jus effed for life no matter how i adjust it the bearings just fall apart
i feel like a failure.. time to die -
- CommentAuthorSkidMark
- CommentTimeAug 11th 2009 edited
They are cartridge bearings. There is no spacer in the middle so if they are too tight it wears the bearing out. Some sealed hubs have a spacer in the middle or a raised middle section on the axle to keep this from happening.
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