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    • CommentAuthoriron jaiden
    • CommentTimeJul 30th 2009 edited
     
    Yes, Phil Wood hubs spin like goddamn angels on ice skates.
    I never wanted to buy into the hype on these. I knew they were sweet but really, how different could high quality bearings and properly machined surfaces really be from the good old formula rebrands?
    That different.
    This thread isn't gonna start much of a discussion but I do wanna say that this company knows how to make a hub.

    That is all.
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    how much are they and can u post a link? i wanna check these said "goddamn angels on ice skates." out
    • CommentAuthorcloud
    • CommentTimeJul 30th 2009
     
    i'm pretty pumped on a phil bb coming soon!
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    ....campy record hubs aren't bad either.

    Cheers.
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    Posted By: TRICKonmyTRACKhow much are they and can u post a link? i wanna check these said "goddamn angels on ice skates." out


    Phil Wood Website

    They tend to run about $180 for the front hub and $200 for the rear new.
    I almost never buy anything new so I got the rear wheel (Phil laced to Velocity Deep V) off a dude here for $200 and the front (same) off eBay for about $190.
    More expensive than most stuff out there but so worth it.

    And yeah they're bottom brackets are just as nice. I mean every know Phils are the shit I've just never ridden on em though and got really surprised tonight that I could actually feel the difference.
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    Posted By: ohsodistant....campy record hubs aren't bad either.

    Cheers.


    Well yeah Records are beautiful too. In the years I've been riding I've never really been lucky enough to have a great wheelset. Once I had some Dura-Ace track hubs but they were loose bearing and not in the best shape when I got 'em.
    I've always ended up with nice components on nice frames and mediocre wheelsets. Until now that is :)
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    Phil wood hubs are awesome, I miss my set all the time, they were tanks. but I do like my dura aces now to, campys are nice as well.. Gosh hard to choose, I like the phils the most hands down
    • CommentAuthorwes m.
    • CommentTimeJul 30th 2009
     
    Yes, San Jose is proud. We are home to phil wood and joey chestnut (hot dog eating world champion).

    If you have some money and you are thinking "hey, what baller bike part should I get? An aerospoke? A hed3? Some njs this or that? A new messenger bag and skinny jeans?" the correct answer would be anything produced by phil wood.

    Not only do they spin forever, they last forever. A phil hub is equivalent to a chris king headset or ron popeil turkey rotisserie. Set it and forget it.
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    Posted By: wes m.Yes, San Jose is proud. We are home to phil wood and joey chestnut (hot dog eating world champion).

    If you have some money and you are thinking "hey, what baller bike part should I get? An aerospoke? A hed3? Some njs this or that? A new messenger bag and skinny jeans?" the correct answer would be anything produced by phil wood.

    Not only do they spin forever, they last forever. A phil hub is equivalent to a chris king headset or ron popeil turkey rotisserie. Set it and forget it.


    Funny enough I asked my girl for a Chris King headset for my birthday comin up. Nothin wrong with the budget Tange on there now but I'm lovin the shit out of my new GTB so I think imma make this thing my forever-ever bike, might as well get it sweet as sugar.
    Started with the nice carbon fork to soak up some road, then the Phil hubs, next the King headset, and lastly a nice Thomson seatpost and it'll be just beautiful :)
    • CommentAuthorfixedpuch
    • CommentTimeJul 30th 2009
     
    Ya, I have been riding on my rear Phil hub for about 2 months now and I just finished lacing my front up a week or two ago. And they are so buttery smooth, its amazing how long they spin for. Definitely worth the money. My justification was they would last me longer than my knees will so I might as well get them. My Campy Chorus BB(it has an ass ton of miles) is about crapped out and I'm probably going to put a Phil in.
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    hehe comment
    • CommentAuthoreaglerock
    • CommentTimeJul 31st 2009
     
    Posted By: wes m.Not only do they spin forever, they last forever. A phil hub is equivalent to a chris king headset or ron popeil turkey rotisserie. Set it and forget it.

    What's even more important is that the PW-dudes still provide support for absolutely everything they've ever made. This includes replacement parts, and they've hung on to the necessary tools for all the older variations of the hubs.
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    I just got my phil wood bottom bracket in the mail and my new wheels with profile hubs and open pro cd rims will be coming soon.

    With my king headset, profile hubs, and phil wood bottom bracket, I'm hoping this bike will last a very long time.
    • CommentAuthorLyKqiD
    • CommentTimeAug 5th 2009
     
    Posted By: eaglerockron popeil turkey rotisserie. Set it and forget it.

    ftw
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    lmao you guys are drinking the phil wood koolaid so hard.
    • CommentAuthorgreg
    • CommentTimeAug 5th 2009
     
    or we enjoy riding on quality parts
    • CommentAuthorheadydude
    • CommentTimeAug 5th 2009
     
    never ridden them, but have never heard one bad word about them.
    • CommentAuthortyler215
    • CommentTimeAug 5th 2009
     
    their hubs arnt that much more expensive than alot of other parts out there, and when you factor in that they will last forever you really cant beat them
    • CommentAuthorfixedpuch
    • CommentTimeAug 5th 2009
     
    ya, dont be a sour puss, octopus magic
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    Posted By: octopus magiclmao you guys are drinking the phil wood koolaid so hard.


    Haha dude you know that ain't koolaid, it's wine. And it's good wine. :)
    • CommentAuthorsfbee
    • CommentTimeAug 5th 2009 edited
     
    Posted By: iron jaidenHaha dude you know that ain't koolaid, it's wine. And it's good wine. :)


    Are we talking mad dog 20/20 good, or is some high end bartles and james shit?
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    Posted By: sfbee
    Posted By: iron jaidenHaha dude you know that ain't koolaid, it's wine. And it's good wine. :)


    Are we talking mad dog 20/20 good, or is some high end bartles and james shit?


    Naw dude we're talkin the shit that used to make my mom call me Jimmy and keep one of her eyes half closed all the time good. We're talking good good.
    • CommentAuthorjam guy
    • CommentTimeAug 5th 2009
     
    We are talking about a 200 year old bottle of brandy. Served in the worlds finest crystal and brought to you by Zoey Deschanel.
    • CommentAuthorRuffinit
    • CommentTimeAug 6th 2009
     
    Though I really like Phils.. You can put them up against the upper tier gruppo of most of the manufacturers and come up pretty well equivilent. Superb Pro, Campy, Zeus, Avocet... it's that couple extra bucks that you are or are not willing to let go of that will mean the difference between great and ambrosia.........
    • CommentAuthorscruggle
    • CommentTimeAug 6th 2009
     
    So if I replace my Formula hubs with Phil Wood hubs what can I expect to notice? I mean when I'm riding, not when I spin the wheel in my hand.
    • CommentAuthorjam guy
    • CommentTimeAug 6th 2009
     
    Posted By: RuffinitThough I really like Phils.. You can put them up against the upper tier gruppo of most of the manufacturers and come up pretty well equivilent. Superb Pro, Campy, Zeus, Avocet... it's that couple extra bucks that you are or are not willing to let go of that will mean the difference between great and ambrosia.........


    Well yea but those are all track specific. I would love to see someone ride them 2 years straight in rain snow and salt and see how they compare then to a pair of superbe pros. Dura ace wheels spin like butter but I would love to see you race cyclocross on them. My phil wheels I just sold had been ridden in all weather plus I rode cyclocross on the a few times. They held up amazingly. That is what you get when you buy phils. Great hubs and even better customer service.
    • CommentAuthorthe rabbi
    • CommentTimeAug 6th 2009
     
    Posted By: scruggleSo if I replace my Formula hubs with Phil Wood hubs what can I expect to notice? I mean when I'm riding, not when I spin the wheel in my hand.
    just replace the bearings.
    the bearings are what makes phils spin, after all.
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    Posted By: the rabbi
    Posted By: scruggleSo if I replace my Formula hubs with Phil Wood hubs what can I expect to notice? I mean when I'm riding, not when I spin the wheel in my hand.
    just replace the bearings.
    the bearings are what makes phils spin, after all.


    You listen to this advice. Phil cartridges are not very expensive and will at least make your Formulas feel like a Phil hub. Now there's no doubt that the actual hub body of a Phil is a bit higher quality than a Formula but only in the most extreme circumstances is that ever going to make a difference. 99% of the time a Formula hub will last as long as you want it to. Through some wheeling and dealing (no pun intended) I got a set of Phils laced to Deep Vs basically in trade for my Formulas laced to the same rims and some handlebars. Couldn't pass that up. Had that not happened I probably would've just replaced the bearings one of these days.
    • CommentAuthorRuffinit
    • CommentTimeAug 11th 2009
     
    Posted By: jam guy
    Posted By: RuffinitThough I really like Phils.. You can put them up against the upper tier gruppo of most of the manufacturers and come up pretty well equivilent. Superb Pro, Campy, Zeus, Avocet... it's that couple extra bucks that you are or are not willing to let go of that will mean the difference between great and ambrosia.........


    Well yea but those are all track specific. I would love to see someone ride them 2 years straight in rain snow and salt and see how they compare then to a pair of superbe pros. Dura ace wheels spin like butter but I would love to see you race cyclocross on them. My phil wheels I just sold had been ridden in all weather plus I rode cyclocross on the a few times. They held up amazingly. That is what you get when you buy phils. Great hubs and even better customer service.

    Jammer... I don't ride tarck, track or any other spelling. I ride road of all types. All of the hubs I was referring to are road hubs. There is one set of hubs though that I have never rebuilt and were stock on my Bridgestone touring bike. While they may not spin quite as nicely as Phils they are very close.. I've got over 50,000 miles on them in the rain, in the snow, the desert, you name it the bike's been there. AND they still spin well! They're 23 years old and they were high grade when the bike was new.. These hubs are SANSIN RE-40S (they're sealed). So while you can spend a full week's pay on your next set of hubs, don't forget to take a look-see at some of the other brand's high end hubs. ALL the companies have to get their bearings manufactured somewhere.
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    Octopus, they're good enough for Sheldon Brown (search for his name on the page), who recommended them at every opportunity.
    • CommentAuthorfixedpuch
    • CommentTimeAug 11th 2009
     
    I was tuning a Nishiki touring bike that had suntour cyclone der and matching suntour barcon shifters. When I put the bike in my stand I realized it had Phil Wood hubs on it that were dirty as sin. I cleaned them up and felt the bearings which feel just about as good as the ones that I just laced up. When I called the lady to tell her that her bike was done I asked her about how much she had ridden it. She was the original owner those wheels came stock on it and she is pretty sure that she bought it in 83 or 84. And she apparently has about 20,000 miles touring the world on them. She had the hubs relaced 3 times.

    This makes me NOT regret buying a phil wood hubset.
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    or those not wanting Phils, you can always get the bearings and throw them in a set of Formulas.
 


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